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To: ketsu
It's not that simple. Modern conservatism has mutated considerably(you don't see many temperance leagues these days).
What I'm advocating is organizing political conservatism is a positive way as well as a negative one. Conservatism tends to argue that the church is the primary social element outside of the family for maintaining a stable and just society, but that's cold comfort to someone having to survive going past an inner-city "corner" every day.
It boils down to this, conservatism advocates a strong, cohesive society. That society is breaking apart and *modern conservatism* doesn't offer a coherent vision on how to solve those problems. I think it might be interesting to have a coherent *voluntary* view of what sort of activities would make society stronger given modern day problems.

With all due respect, you seem to have absorbed the street-corner mentality that all social problems are the result of governments and/or the church; therefore these institutions and everything they stand for were never any good to begin with and should be discarded or altered for "new" times.

You should read the real history of the civil rights movement, in which communist anarchists deliberately -- and with an inconscionable willingness to lie -- took aim at all the strengths of American society, including religion, family, morality, and traditional common law, starting as early as the post Civil War era, but gaining momentum under FDR and starting to turn the tide their way in the 60s with the proliferation of affluence and mass communications. For you to blame the hapless victims of this assault -- the trusting average citizen who still believes "up" means "up" and "down" means "down" -- is churlish and misinformed.

It will take a social revolution for persons of good conscience to renovate this society and return it to balanced civility; but that has happened in our own country before, and in other countries as well, once enough people caught on to the motivations of the liars in public life. There is simply no public substitute for private morality grounded in faith. Yours needs a check-up.

To paraphrase an old sage, "a forest can only look green if most of the trees are green." You are the one who has to change your opinion of eternal moral values and the imperfect human institutions that labor to uphold them. You are the one who has to stop criticizing and start working to turn things back around. You are the one who has to accept the primacy of God's natural law and stop rejecting it because it has been attacked and victimized.

224 posted on 03/10/2010 11:29:36 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Liberals love the poor so much they came up w/ a plan to create millions more of them. - Ann Coulter)
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To: Albion Wilde

There are many, many great comments on this thread and this is one of the best.

This thread needs to get BTTT a lot.

Great, great comments.


232 posted on 03/10/2010 1:42:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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