[pnh102]

There were 39 Dems in the House who voted against the health care bill, which passed 220-215.

It is very easy to vote "against" something when you know it will pass by other means. Why do you think "pro life" Democrats like Stupak are caving like they will support this bill? People like him WANT it to pass, but they want to put up a "conservative" facade (that sadly many people at this site bought into) for the voters, but when push comes to shove, they will be good little loyal socialists in the end.

Call my cynical, but this is just how DC has always "worked."

[kabar]

I have no doubt that some Dems were "allowed" to vote against the bill the first time. However, it would also be cyncial to believe that all Dems will vote as they are directed by Pelosi. If it were that easy, there would already be a bill on the President's desk.

There is opposition to the bill within the Dem party. Some believe it does not go far enough while others think it goes too far. The House bill contained the public option. The Senate bill does not. Many Obama deadlines have come and gone. The real question is how many Dems are willing to jump off the cliff with Obama.

I am in the camp that believes there will be a bill that is passed. The only question is what will be in it. The Dems are wrestling with that now and they have two weeks to come up with the answer.

[AU72]

Trusting a democrat to keep to his word on a vote is a fools wish.

The only good democrat is an out-of-office democrat.