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To: Uncle Chip
You were asking ...

So then we birthers are doing the right thing by pressing this issue and educating the people and pushing this issue forward. Isn't that right???

Not on Part 1 of the above that I was talking about. That's because there's a loophole in that no candidate is legally required to produce their birth certificate, which is why the state law is needed to require any candidate to produce a birth certificate or else they cannot be on the ballot.

That was the primary push of the birth certificate issue in the beginning and not with the natural born status issue (part 2 above). And thus, as I've said from the beginning, you don't go to court to get the court to have a candidate produce a birth certificate when that candidate is not required by law to produce one in the first place.

What you do is get the law on the books. So, no..., in that regard, all those who were pursuing those cases were wrong... and the courts have shown that they were wrong. The state law is required and I hope that these FReepers start working for those state laws.

In regards to the Part 2 of the overall birther issue, gradually, over a long period of time, more and more are shifting over to that as their main issue, but it wasn't that way in the beginning and that wasn't the thrust of all those court cases that we've had in the past. Those are all about the birth certificate issue (and it being produced; you need the state law for that...).

So, I didn't see cases being pursued in terms of the natural born status issue. And that still remains to be seen if anyone can get a case put forward with this issue (not producing the birth certificate, mind you..., but just on the basis of what Obama has said about his parents and the citizenship issue).

If someone is following a case on that issue alone, I would like to see it. I personally have not followed any court case on the natural born status issue, because I know how long they take to wind their way through court, so I just wait until one "hits the news" and it is proceeding to the Supreme Court -- and then I'll start watching it. Otherwise... it's just a "wait and see" game right now.

So, no... the birthers were doing the wrong thing on the birth certificate issue with the court cases. That was going nowhere and I could see that in the beginning. We needed a state law on that one, not a court case.

But, if anyone is pursuing the natural born status issue, in regards to Obama, that's the only one that has any chance of going anywhere, but not anytime soon, unfortunately. And there's no guarantee that the Supreme Court will take it, anyway.

You only need one case like that to proceed and then you just wait and see what happens... nothing much more to do than that.

551 posted on 03/05/2010 10:58:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Since you believe and want us to believe that Fukino was correct in her prefabricated opinion that Obama is a “natural born citizen”, issued in violation of state law, then you can’t honestly expect us to believe any more of your prevaricating prattle about loopholes.


773 posted on 03/06/2010 5:53:44 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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