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Figuratively speaking, I mean I have whomped them upside the head with Wong until the paper is falling apart. To pretty much no effect.

Parsy, as I told you after your EPIC FAIL last weekend:

"I asked you to demonstrate what you know and you did ... not a g*ddamn thing!"

Once again, have you actually read US v Wong Kim Ark?

You keep spouting the same misinformed rubbish bullet points over & over, and that's what gets us FReeper old timers pissed at noobies like yourself, EnderWiggins, and others. There IS a difference between a "difference of opinion" and purposeful contrarianism by outsiders designed to cause disruption on FR.

I know it's not in your talking points, but you may want to re-evaluate ANYTHING in the Opinion extracted from A.V. Dicey's 1896 version of "Conflict of Laws". Dicey later had a change of heart that validates Blackstone's Commentaries as it would have been interpreted by the Framers (excerpt at bottom of post).

Upon re-evaluation by the Roberts SCOTUS Court — probably as a result of a quo warranto Obama Eligibility lawsuit — various flawed lower court interpretations (and the Left's abuse of those interpretations) stemming from Justice Gray's 1898 discussion of "Natural Born Citizen" in US v Wong Kim Ark will very likely be overturned.

This would be very similar to when the 2008 DC v Heller case overturned NUMEROUS lower court opinions stemming from the badly-written 1939 US v Miller SCOTUS concerning 2nd Amendment rights. The SCOTUS must make Opinions as "interpreted in the light of the common law, the principles and history of which were familiarly known to the framers of the Constitution."

Such a refinement of the source material used in US v Wong Kim Ark by today's Roberts SCOTUS would very much impact Obama's status as a British Subject:

You were saying ...

Parsy, as I told you after your EPIC FAIL last weekend:

Ummmm... that's not the "EPIC FAIL" by any means....

The real "EPIC FAIL" is if it's as you say and so clear cut... then why is Obama still the President?

You see..., it's either an EPIC FAIL that Obama cleared all hurdles, without even one hiccup or anything from a court or the Supreme Court -- for something being "so clear cut" legally speaking -- or -- it's really not so clear cut after all... doncha know.

Most normal and average voters know that when you have a legal issue that is strongly disputed on opposing sides, that it will take a court to finally decide the issue one way or another.

And that's exactly the situation here... it will take the Supreme Court to weigh in on this particular issue as it pertains to a candidate being qualified per the Constitution if he is born on American soil but the parents (or parents, even) are not citizens of this country.

That's what you're gonna have to get the Supreme Court to decide, in the end...

Well, one thing I can say, is that I blame Obama for the Birther Movement. I don’t think any of you guys would be running around waving copies of Vattel if he had just freed the long form.

I think Obama was more interested in votes than he was doing what’s right. If he had coughed up his info when this first got started, all you guys wouldn’t be trying to re-write SCOTUS decisions and things.

parsy, who says Obama owns the Birther Movement! He started it! He can stop it! Free the Long Form!