Posted on 03/03/2010 6:45:57 PM PST by onyx
The Senate's healthcare bill would lose 12 Democratic votes in the House, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Wednesday.
Stupak, the sponsor of an amendment to the House healthcare bill which barred federal subsidies for health plans covering abortion, said that 12 lawmakers who had previously supported healthcare reform legislation in the House.
"It's accurate to say there are at least 12 of us who voted for healthcare that have indicated to the speaker and others that unless you change this language, we will vote against it," Stupak said during an appearance on MSNBC.
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Pelosi can’t change anything in the Bill.
And Reconciliation won't solve it.
The Senate is not the problem for the Democrats, the problem for them is the House and they can't pass the Senate version unchanged.
Notice that they don’t mention the crucial issue dividing the Democrats-abortion funding.
So, those who were 'allowed' to vote 'no' would be easily offset by those who only voted 'yes' because of the anti-abortion language.
I can’t believe that the abortion clause is the only thing they object to in this bill! Outragious! I guess, when Pelosi gives in and takes the abortion clause out, the bill will sail through the House!
She can’t take out the abortion clause. They have to vote for the Senate bill as written.
Quote: “If so, why is neither bill now law?”
And I may very well ask, why aren’t they both dead? A leftist is a leftist is a leftist. They are all marching off the cliff together. They are just searching for the right cliff. Sooner or later they will find it.
Am I wrong? As I see it, Pelosi is responsible for getting House members to vote YES on the Senate-passed version of the bill. At the same time, legislators in the House are working on a compromise package that will make critical changes to the existing bill, the one that passed the Senate on Christmas Eve. Pelosi and company are promising that, as soon as the bill is passed by both houses and Obama signs it, the Senate will then use "reconciliation" to pass the amended version that was written in the House. Herein lies the catch - House members are being expected to vote for a bill they hate with promises that it will all be changed later by the Senate. It isn't the "big" bill that Obama and Reid are threatening to push through with reconciliation, it is the "amended version" written by the House of Representatives.
Another problem lies in the repercussions that House members know will come from a YES vote. Members in the Senate will be able to assess who can and who can't afford to make this unpopular move and assign YES and NO votes accordingly. House members don't have that luxury.
Anyway, that is how I see it. No matter how you look at it, it is all a steaming pile of doo!
Well, if I have it correctly, this bill that the house has to vote on cannot be changed since it is the Senate bill. And the house is the only ones that have to pass it as is and bambi can then sign it if it does. So, why are they threatening and just saying we will not vote for it?
But in the long run, blue or not, they are dems and IMHO can’t be trusted.
stupak 12 bump for later
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