Posted on 03/02/2010 6:30:33 PM PST by Steelfish
Heard that...IL is so freaking liberal it just reaks. Yet somehow I meet so many rational conservatives here...
does Chicago, Peoria, and the QCA really have that many demo-freak’s?
neve rowned a gun but seriously thinking of it now. Dont know the law in NJ or even how to go about getting ine and proper training and paperwork...Have a feeling we all need ot be armed just in case the Marxist go the whole 9 yeards on us.
Too late, God already did that.
wow I better put my glasses on ..Had like 4 typos in two line ..sorry folks ( I still think I can get away with being on line without glasses..the ego dies hard for sure)
Too late, it already is. Oh, LA Slimes article, maybe they'll learn something then.
You 'know' wrong.
Anywhere you have a city of any size you have liberals. The city of Peoria has its share. I live in neighboring Tazewell county which is fairly conservative.
Excluding Chicago and Cook county, Illinois is conservative.
The real “progressives” want it to be a “national right”.
Leftist Joining with the NRA: http://www.newsweek.com/id/234185
The reaffirming and getting conservatives attached to the principle of “incorporation” has far more dire consequences to limited government then you know.
This is in fact a Pyrrhic victory.
The Court should be Overturning “incorporation” NOT reaffirming it!
Now the Idiots in the NRA will be solidly on the side of maintainable “incorporation”. Gun rights wont be safe either because now not only will the States have them “reasonable exceptions” to gun rights, the Federal government will have EXACTLY the same justification to impose the same “reasonable exceptions”.
Only the federal government will uses them “reasonable exceptions” not just to Disarm the individual people of weapons capable of standing up to them, but our States as well making us utterly helpless against the federal government!
Just encase you don’t believe that will happen your already too late as it has already begun
Remember the Tennessee Guardsman?: http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/constitution/2807-rich-hamblen-challenges-the-supreme-court-to-uphold-the-second-amendment
Incorporating the 2nd amendment has just made it much harder for usurpations like this to be overturn.
Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is a short sighted fool!
Anything the government can give you, the government can take away (later)
Maybe your "constitution" gives you things. My Constitution affirms and protects my rights against a hostile government, which we currently have.
Well said.
I slumbered like many, until 1989, when the Stockton incident enabled David Roberti to ram an “assault weapons” ban through the California legislature. The speed - and success - of that vile maneuver woke me up like an earthquake.
It has taken the rest of the country somewhat longer, but more - many more - of us are awake now...
Liberalism is, indeed, an urban disease.
His little head might pop.
a polished turd to say the least ifn the black robes set 'reasonable' "regulation" in ink...
if not, then why is he on the streets ???
normally Id BUMP a rant like that, but I wont cause I know that bambam is lurkin the bang_list today...8^}...
Libtards and progressives be damned.
see 54...thats been my gut since they accepted this case, after the wishy washy heller opinions...
I hear you. I’ve been involved in the RKBA issue since the early 90’s. I remember that time - we were under assault from ALL sides. It looked like we stood to lose everything in 1990 to 1994. I remember S.747 very well. The younger people in RKBA today cannot fathom, given the 16-year tide of wins in courts, that there was a time when we RKBA advocates were considering how to maintain any shred of the right in some states.
Then the 1994 elections happened, and Democrats were tossed out of control, with at LEAST 21 seats in the House being directly attributed to Chucky Schumer’s obsession with “assault weapons” - and the Democrats dropped gun control like a hot potato(e).
It has to be noted that it was NOT the NRA who is responsible for this result, it is one Alan Gura, a guy who listened to senior RKBA scholars like Don Kates and listened well. Don always said that one of the problems with most all gun cases is that the appellants were criminals. eg, Miller.
Don always said that a group of clean, law-abiding citizens needed to be found in the proper jurisdiction (either Chicago or DC) who would apply for permits and be denied, then take the case up the ladder to the SCOTUS. To Don, it was most important that the appellants be squeeky clean, so there was never, ever any consideration by the conservatives on the court that they’d be turning a criminal loose.
Gura followed Kates’ gameplan nearly exactly, and here we are.
Licensed gun dealers are still under assault from Clinton’s BATF of the mid 90s. Baby Bush did nothing to get the banners out of the BATF, and they are still shutting down licensed gun dealers as fast as they possibly can.
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