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To: stuartcr
Of course, the whole thing is academic.

But sort of interesting—

I'll give you 25% carry rate among airline pax on and before 9/11.

Flight 93, 9 out of 38.

Flight 175, 14 out of 56.

Flight 77, 14 out of 58.

Flight 11, 20 out of 81.

Not including crew.

Just to help your argument, let's cut those in half. Now only 1 in 8 are packing.

Thought experiment: assuming that the other passengers don't get suspicious of you as you move from your assigned to your preferred seats, thus retaining the element of surprise, where do you and your three teammates position yourselves so that, when you jump up and either take a hostage or start shooting, none of the 4 to 10 armed passengers can keep you from taking control of the aircraft?

(Remember that the actions of the unarmed on Flight 93 prevented the accomplishment of the terrorists’ mission.)

After 9-11, I don't think a hijacking will succeed on an aircraft with a predominately American passenger roster with or without guns; and in the event our COTUS 2A rights were restored to the extent postulated on this thread, a good deal more than 25% of the pax would be packin’.

7 posted on 02/23/2010 9:49:19 AM PST by ExGeeEye (Talk To The Hand-- Palin 2012)
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To: ExGeeEye

How would the terrorists get guns aboard? They didn’t even have drivers licenses let alone concealed carry permits, which do an extensive background.

No, with one CCW aboard, with courage, it would be “Drop the boxcutters or you all die!”


8 posted on 02/23/2010 11:03:11 AM PST by at bay (My father was born with 28 ounces of flesh in 1924 then went on to become Mr. (Glenn) Holland.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Seats can be picked prior to boarding. Positioning would depend upon the aircraft.

A silencer, at nite when passengers are mostly asleep or less conscious, would allow someone to take out a lot of people before being noticed.

I do not believe that 25% of the people that fly, would be carrying. That would also depend a lot on the flights destination, time of week, time of flight.


9 posted on 02/23/2010 11:29:53 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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