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To: steve86; rahbert; Scotsman will be Free
I do think that when a private property owner/manager requests an individual to leave, the person should exit immediately with no back talk, threatening, proselytizing or handing out brochures.

Bears repeating.

I'm all for legal open carry, and ALL sides should be respectful of the law and the other person's rights, responsibilities and duties.

Martinez wrote that Dohmen "was extremely verbal and was very upset I was taking the firearm from him."

"I said, 'You do not have my permission to do that,' " Dohmen said of the officer taking his legally carried, loaded gun.

This would not have been my personal, preferred response when being legally stopped by uniformed officers.

Seems a bit odd also that when the police arrived, drawn and ready for the worst, that the wife's reaction is to try to get into the car in order to hand the officers some brochures.

Gail Dohmen, 63, said she was upset as she watched what was happening to her husband. She said she tried to grab Open Carry brochures from the car to give the officers but was told to move away or face arrest.

There's a time and a place for this sort of thing, and the middle of a stop like this is not it.

57 posted on 02/22/2010 12:26:06 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Many people do not do what we would consider the right thing at the appropriate time when in these sorts of situations.
It is either because they are extremist whackos, stupid, or not thinking clearly because they have never been on the wrong end of an encounter with the police. If you have been a law abiding citizen all your life and are suddenly being treated as suspect it tends to create a bit of an uproar.

I agree with your first paragraph. I also know that that specific law is BS. What may bother you, doesn’t bother me and vice versa.

I do not like police reports that have subjective garbage in them like “extremely verbal” and “very upset”. If I were his sergeant, his report would have been sent back with instructions to cite specific examples that show “very upset” and “extremely verbal.” Otherwise it is fluff, and a decent lawyer would eat him for lunch.
Simple philosophy. If it isn’t in the report it didn’t happen.


58 posted on 02/22/2010 12:43:52 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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