Posted on 02/20/2010 7:58:13 AM PST by Brices Crossroads
"While I was flipping through the autobiography, a woman approached the booth. Catherine Sumner, it turned out, was part of GOProud, a group of openly gay Republicans and conservatives that for the first time is taking part in CPAC. Is this your flyer? Sumner demanded, waving the white and green pamphlet. Thus launched a debate about gays in the military that pretty much ended when the booth attendee told her that homosexuality is a sin and shes going to hell.
Its insulting, Sumner, 31, who edits a military magazine, said turning away. Across the board the reaction to GOProuds presence here has been positive, but then you have guys like this. Even Dick Cheney came out and says he supports us. Conservatives have to be more inclusive, they have to be. In fact, just one group, Liberty University, boycotted CPAC over the inclusion of GOProud, though the Catholic crowd werent the only ones unnerved by their presence: one booth down from GOProuds set up in the fourth row, those manning the National Organization for Marriage, which works to ban gay marriage, kept casting nervous and slightly envious glances at the somewhat larger crowd surrounding GOProuds booth.
The tensions didnt end there. Along the back wall 2004 World Poker Champion Greg Raymer stood waiting for a talk radio interview. Focus on the Family considers poker immoral, Raymer said, gesturing towards the Focus on the Family booth down an aisle. They have no right to tell me what to do. Raymer is at CPAC representing the Poker Players Alliance..."
(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...
Please ping the Catholic and prolife lists if you wish.
But they DO have the right to tell you that what you're doing is immoral. First amendment, and all that.
Exactly! We have no right to force anyone to do anything but we have EVERY right to tell them whatever we want!
We’ve been keeping our boot on the neck of the party for so long.
And will continue to not vote for liberal candidates, even if they make them the Republican nominee.
Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage were the enemy there. Amazing. No wonder they loved Mitt Romney. Fortunately, CPAC’s influence has waned so much lately that they probably don’t have, or influence, enough votes to elect an alderman in Chicago.
Sarah Palin continues to show her savvy by giving this group a wide berth.
Yeah it's really going to be even more insulting when she stands before God and he tells her the same thing.
CPAC = Gay-Pac...and led by David Keene, ultimate RINO who supported Snarlin' Arlin Spectre.
If the GOP wants to try to win without cultural conservatives, I suppose they can try. But they will fail miserably.
I suspect they don’t really want to win, though.
So, it’s up to us to take over the GOP.
Sounds like “lots of life” & a “good healthy debate.”
What are the Democrats “debating”?
I have absolutely zero desire to help childish scum like this prosper in their immorality. May Obama's goon-squads bring the drunken gamblers and homosexual filth to dust and ashes.
“Ann Coulter shows her RINO colors with her continued open support of Romney (the “good money” is on him) on Hannity’s radio program Friday. Sigh”
That somewhat puzzles me, but I honestly stopped taking her seriously when she trashed Fred Thompson in 2008. She has said very positive things about Palin, though.
This is what is wrong with the Beltway Republicans. We need to purge them. As a voting block they don’t matter and all they do is corrupt public policy.
This is getting scary. The Republican Party is conservative for selfish purposes. Religious conservatives are affiliated with the same party because there is still greater respect in it for the individual. But the two groups - social conservative and fiscal conservative - part ways at a certain point. The fiscal conservatives have a problem that is going to become more and more pronounced in that they have no foundation for their positions when they have ignored the basis of truth. Self-interests is fine until it no longer respects the right of the living. Abortion is a horrific act and “blue-blood” conservatives that refuse to oppose it are damaged in their reasoning. Self-interest is fine until it makes concessions to approve what is unnatural to the point of damage the meaning of family - the foundation of all society. The conservative homosexuals should not be asking for marriage, insisting on any kind of relativity to heterosexual lifestyle. They press their lie and it is an insult to social conservatives who know better.
When they selfishly demand the same benefits and accommodations society rightly shows to real Family, they go too far.
No we don't.
It requires a very clear and definitive response. I think along these lines:
1) The fiscal situation, currently, stands above all other considerations and must be addressed or else we lose everything.
2) The Constitution is sufficiently broad to provide protections for everyone, however, neither marriage nor military service are rights.
3) Tradition and shared moral values are what holds a society together. As we have seen over the last 40 years abondonment of traditions come at a high cost.
4. Man does not live by bread alone, ie there is a necessary moral element to governance and it cannot be ignored.
If gays believe that conservative principles, both fiscal and social, are beneficial to all Americans then they should be welcomed w/ open arms. But if they see the conservative movement as a vehicle to drive their agenda forward then their presence is merely the point of a wedge to divide conservatives.
A one legged man isn't going to win many races.
Exactly. CPAC has definitely jumped the shark.
Beautiful. Very forceful, passionate, and articulate. It seems like only a few homos are protesting, other (normal) people are applauding. Are we as conservatives going to give up our principles to get votes from these homos who pretend to be conservative?
“If the GOP wants to try to win without cultural conservatives, I suppose they can try. But they will fail miserably.
I suspect they dont really want to win, though.
So, its up to us to take over the GOP.”
Right, right and right. CPAC is a rotten pustule, a shadow of what it once was. It has been eclipsed by the Tea Party movement. Even David Keene admitted as much. It is an inside the beltway group that draws from wannabees outside the beltway who want to join the inside the beltway group. They have few adherents, and vitually no grass roots organization. Mitt, understandably, is the hero of CPAC. Sarah Palin is the heroine of the Tea Partiers. We’ll see who wins that one.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.