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To: Jim Robinson
We are 100% opposed to liberalism, socialism, wacko environmentalism and militant homosexualism.

Jim, I am now, and have always been, in 100% agreement with that statement.

I also don't believe this site is trying to be a republican party site, and that's also a good thing.

But I stand by my statement. I think we, as people of faith, must stand against homosexuality, and must forcefully oppose the homosexual agenda. That means that we must condemn homosexuality, and condemn those who promote homosexuality.

But I don't expect a political party to condemn individuals for being homosexuals, even if the party is primarily made up of people who individually would condemn homosexuals.

God will punish homosexuals, but I don't expect my political party to be the instrument of that retribution. So while I would and have personally condemned homosexual behavior, I don't expect the republican party to condemn individuals who are homosexual.

I DO expect the party to condemn the homosexual agenda, and to resist the homosexual takeover of leadership which leads to advancing the homosexual agenda.

I certainly didn't intend any of my personal statements to be construed as supporting a homosexual agenda. I opposed CPAC's sponsorhip by GOProud, and I've already stated what I think such organizations have no place in the conservative movement.

But I do not see a political or ideological advantage to the party itself being seen as anti-gay, as opposed to being anti-gay-agenda. And I believe we need to win elections to hold off the gay agenda,

239 posted on 02/19/2010 9:44:05 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Mumbo jumbo. Tell it to someone who cares what you think.


247 posted on 02/19/2010 9:47:59 PM PST by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think Anti-Gay is Conservative...

We don’t embrace homosexuality, or adultery, or polygamy
or incest or abortion...

It does not mean you are condemning people to eternal hell, but those behaviours are not what any moral foundation is based upon..All those behaviours will destroy a moral society just like a nuke would....


255 posted on 02/19/2010 9:53:06 PM PST by TaraP (*GOD* made love so strong, so it would carry you all the way home.....)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

So you argue that individuals must oppose what is contrary to nature and to God’s laws... Agreed. But then you go on to “construct a wall of separation” between the private individual and the public domain ... That is contradictory and denies the duty we owe not only individually but also collectively to society. The moral imperative to uphold what is good and oppose what is evil.

You cannot separate morality from the public sphere... and especially from politics. For when you do such, you do injury to reason and insult God... He who created both the individual, the Church, and the state. While all may have their appropriate powers and spheres of primary influence, nevertheless they are co-joined in their end purpose, which is to uphold good and restrain evil.

If you argue that a political party must not voice opposition to a moral evil, even though the individuals that make up that party must, by divine design, oppose such evil, then you might as well argue that the body and soul are not intimately joined. Where goes the individual, goes the family, goes the culture, goes the nation. All are interconnected, and the social bonds cannot be severed without giving rise to moral ambiguity and anarchy.

Societies rise and collapse not only through the action and inaction of the individual, but also, and by natural extension, through the fiat of the collective group.

Just as the moral imperative of self defense extends from the individual to the family to the nation, so then does the moral imperative of cultural defense against a known evil.


335 posted on 02/19/2010 11:07:26 PM PST by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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