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To: Reagan Man

“Btw, you need to get your facts straight. Richard Schweiker was a Pro-Life Republican, champion of the unborn and one of the first supporters of a Pro-Life amendment to the Constitution.”

How artfully you change the subject from whether the Schweiker pick was a “black mark” (as you put it) against Reagan to whether Schweiker was prolife and therefore desirable as a running mate. The vast majority of the GOP was prolife at the time, and there were more than a few cosponsors for the HLA. (Even BOTH Democrat Nominees for VP four years earlier, Eagleton and Shriver, were prolife!) McCain is prolife. Roe v. Wade was only three years old.
There was no time for Schweiker to have done all the great things you claim he did for the prolife cause BEFORE Reagan sslected him). He represented a Cathoic, heavily prolife state. He was prolife. Big deal.

I have my facts very straight, my friend, becasue I lived through the Schweiker pick, recall the circumastances vividly and it caused real problems for Reagan in the southern delegations. Schweiker, at the time of the pick, was a northeastern liberal especially on economic issues. He was big spender, big government, big union man who was friendly to big government social policies. His selection caused shock waves through the GOP. Jesse Helms, who had saved Reagan from political oblivion in the North Carlina primary a few months earlier, mutinied (so outraged was he by the Schweiker pick) and led a movement to have James Buckley’s name placed in nomination at the 1976 convention to try to deny Reagan the nomination because he thought Reagan had betrayed conservatism. NBC News reporeted from the convention:

(Kansas City) Head of Buckley movement is Reagan delegate North Carolina Senator Jesse Helms who doesn’t like Schweiker Vice President pick. He says now Reagan forces mad at him. [HELMS - says he’s getting hard looks from some of Reagan people. Notes Reagan’s reaction.] Richard Rosenbaum says if Buckley doesn’t stop, he might lose state party’s enthusiasm for Buckley’s Senator reelection. [ROSENBAUM - told Buckley to withdraw.]
REPORTER: John Hart
http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=489475

Richard Viguerie (who I know is a crank, but had a large following at the time)was so enraged that he abandoned Reagan altogether in favor of Phil Crane in 1980.

My facts are straight. And so is my point. Reagan’s selection of Schweiker (who would be classified as a RINO by today’s standards) was considered a betrayal by conservatives in 1976, even more than Palin’s is, becasue Palin is . Denying it won’t wash. I remember it because I felt betrayed at the time. (BTW, nice try on citing the fact that Schweiker grew more conservative AFTER his association with Reagan. What exactly has that got to do with his selection when he was a dyed in the wool liberal according to the 1976 standards?)Reagan faced an outright revolt over his pick, because it placed someone who had been voting a pretty solid liberal line since he entered Congress in 1960 one heartbeat from the Presidency. And he did it for political expediency, not for any apparent altruistic motive.

Palin’s decision to support McCain will not hurt her, any more than the Schweiker pick hurt Reagan. But a helluva lot of conservative (myself included) felt a kick in the gut when we heard about it. I felt nothing of the sort when I heard Palin had endorsed McCain, both because it is much less of a big deal and because her motives in doing what she did are more selfless and purer than Reagan’s were in picking Schweiker. I say that as a huge fan of Reagan(and Palin). But on this comparison, the Gipper comes off worse than the Governor. and those are the facts whether you like them or not.


383 posted on 02/18/2010 5:00:54 PM PST by Brices Crossroads (Politico and)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Looks like I struck raw nerve.

>>>>>How artfully you change the subject ... I have my facts very straight....

Artfully? Me? I didn't raise the issue of Richard Schweiker, YOU DID! I didn't attempt to change the subject either, YOU DID! And on top of that, you got your facts wrong about Schweiker. Period!

>>>>>Reagan’s selection of Schweiker (who would be classified as a RINO by today’s standards) was considered a betrayal by conservatives in 1976, even more than Palin’s is, becasue Palin is.

For what its worth, I didn't see Reagan's choice of Schweiker as a betrayal in 1976. And I don't see Palin's endorsement of McCain as a betrayal either. There are some FReepers today, who consider Reagan a Rino by todays standards and by yesterdays standards too. LOL I don't pay attention to that BS.

The truth is, Schweiker started his political rebirth about the time Reagan chose him to be his running mate. Schweiker's Pro-Life credentials were always rock solid. His last 5 years in the Senate, saw Schweiker evolve from a moderate Republican to a pretty reliable conservative Republican, as evident from his ACU ratings.

Some conservatives weren't always satisfied with Reagan. So be it. That included Jesse Helms and Richard Viguerie. BFD! Today, Viguerie is viewed as a nut job. Which is really what he was back in the 1970`s. Sort of like the nut job Ron Paul. Paul supported Reagan in the 1970`s, but by 1988 called Reagan, a "failure".

>>>>>But on this comparison, the Gipper comes off worse than the Governor. and those are the facts whether you like them or not.

Stop the revisionism! You're so far off base, its pathetic. Reagan's choice of Schweiker didn't hurt him at all. After all, Reagan almost beat a sitting US President for the GOP nomination in 1976. An historic event of the first magnitude.

Like I told you the other day. Palin may be a Reagan conservative, but comparing her to Reagan or criticizing Reagan to make Palin look better, does her a disservice. Let Palin be Palin and let the cards fall where they may. What are you afraid of?

391 posted on 02/18/2010 6:26:55 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Brices Crossroads
My facts are straight. And so is my point. Reagan’s selection of Schweiker...

Good post. Your point is right on target.

395 posted on 02/18/2010 6:49:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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