[philman_36]

As a matter of fact, someone (and I don't have time or inclination to find it), referenced Nguyen & Boulais v. INS as supportive of the NBC argument, here on FR, very recently.

Nguyen & Boulais v. INS site:freerepublic.com

I'll let Spaulding deal with you.

Justice Ginsberg, in a case heard in 2001, Nguyen v. INS, was upset to discover that her grandson, born of American Citizens in Paris, is not a natural born citizen, for the same reasons McCain is not.

[El Gato]

Justice Ginsberg, in a case heard in 2001, Nguyen v. INS, was upset to discover that her grandson, born of American Citizens in Paris, is not a natural born citizen, for the same reasons McCain is not.

The RINO is an NBC, because both his parents were citizens, and he was born "in the armies of the state", per Vattel Section 217, Book I. I very much doubt that Ginzberg's grandson had a parent in the US military, especialy for a birh in Paris. However they, or one of them, may have been in the diplomatic corps, and thus also would be exempt under section 217 cited above.

Interestingly theat Nguyen case referances another case, Rogers versus Bellei indicating that that citizenship at birth (via statute, not by birth in the US) is a form of naturalization for Constitutional purposes. So, if Obama had been born outside the country, he still would not be a natural born citizen, even if his mother had met the statutory requirements for transmitting citizenship.

I had come to that conclusion some time ago, because Congress was only delegated power over naturalization, not citizenship in general.