[SunkenCiv]

That's a strange thing to say. What I'm saying is, there's no revisionism in the exact quotes from the leaders and founders of the Confederacy -- they stated exactly what they were about, and it's been public record ever since. There is simply no excuse for anyone's not knowing about it. The Confederacy was all about preserving and expanding slavery.

Are you submitting the north was squeaky clean in all things and at all times in matters that led to the Civil War?

There's been a great deal of revisionism among those trying to portray the Lost Cause as something other than what it was, and trying to shift blame onto someone, something, anyone, anything, other than the very people who started the war.

[ForGod'sSake]

I ain’t buying Civ and you adroitly avoided my question, that is, is it your contention the north’s motives were as pure as the driven snow concerning matters leading up to the Civil War? Pure altruism? I don’t think so. But I honestly don’t really care much one way or the other with the exception of what we might learn from this episode in our history. Problem is, the history itself is cloudy and suspect.