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Follow up (IBD 2-3-10)
Health Care: A Canadian premier, Danny Williams, said Tuesday he was headed for the U.S. for heart surgery. That’s a bit ironic, given that Democrats hail Canada-care as a model for the U.S. and call our system “broken.”

The provincial governor of Newfoundland and Labrador didn’t seem to think so when his deputy, Kathy Dunderdale, told the National Post: “He has gone to a renowned expert in the procedure that he needs to have done.”

She didn’t disclose exactly where, but she assured Canadians that his prognosis was excellent and she’d fill in for him during his three- to 12-week recovery period. “Ultimately, we have to be the gatekeepers of our own health,” Dunderdale said.

Now, someone like Williams, who’s both an elected official and independently wealthy, ought to be able to get world-class medical care in Canada. But he couldn’t. Because Canada’s single-payer health care system reduces the quality and quantity of care.

A physician can’t just go into business in Canada. He or she is joined at the hip to Canada’s health care system as paymaster, with any private care placed under strict government price controls.

That means long lines of rationing as well as lower-quality care. It’s so bad that even the premier prefers to head to the States.

He’s not alone. Other premiers, including Quebec’s Robert Bourassa in 1990, have sought that care, as has Member of Parliament Belinda Stronach in 2007. According to the Fraser Institute, 41,000 Canadians, or 1% of the population, were referred by their own doctors for nonemergency medical care abroad in 2009, a rise of about 10% from a year earlier.

Thousands more don’t even wait for a referral, leaving the country to seek treatment on their own. Clinics in U.S. cities like Buffalo, Seattle and Detroit do a booming business with Canadian medical tourists. Canadian newspapers are filled with U.S. doctors advertising their services.

For the wealthy Williams, U.S. health care paid for out of pocket is a viable option. Not so for Canada’s poor. If the U.S. moves to a Canadian-style health care model, not even the rich will be able to run from the unpleasant side effects of a socialist system.


85 posted on 02/02/2010 7:23:15 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Dear Former ACLU,

You have NO IDEA how “APE SH*T” my liberal friend turned into after I e-mailed her all the data and info that you posted. She got nasty and testy and said that I’m just “throwing anything in the air to see if it sticks”. I just LOVE IT when they’re presented with all of this information.

After I cut & pasted the last statements you made, she wrote:

“I think Silvie, with respect to the question of quality of care in Canada, you have drawn a conclusion based upon several related assumptions which I do not believe are supported by any empirical data. Further, I suspect you and I have two different definitions of quality health care. I believe that quality health care is health care that is accessible and affordable to people over the course of their lives, particularly wellness care, which reduces the need for more costly/complicated interventions later in life. I would measure the quality of a nation’s health care system based upon the overall health of their citizenry based upon a common rubric. We may have fantastic palaces dedicated to cutting edge medicine in the United States, but I do not think that we are at the top of the list when measuring the overall health of our citizens. In fact, I think we are well down the list of industrial and developed nations.”

and...

“The Frasier Institute is an organization dedicated to the concept of free market principals. I wouldn’t consider any of their data particulary objective and their data is presented in a manner to bolster their fundamental belief.”

DON’T YOU JUST LOVE IT WHEN THEY HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY??


87 posted on 02/03/2010 8:12:48 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD
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