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To: STARWISE
”Let’s say Hugo Chavez came here for a UN conference, and while here, engaged in a tryst with a young American woman and impregnated her. She gave birth here and truthfully named Chavez as the father on the documentation. Is it your opinion that, when that child grew up, he or she would be Constitutionally eligible to run for and become POTUS ?:

Ignoring that there is this little thing called running a campaign against competition and actually being elected by the people of the United States that stands in the way, yes. Such a child would absolutely be Constitutionally eligible to run for and become president of the United States.

”And the Founding Fathers specified natural born citizen status ONLY for POTUS, not senator, not representative.. and for a solid reason: primary national allegiance only to the USA for the highest, most powerful office in the land and Commander in Chief of our military.”

Yes, that is your contention. However, the only definition that existed for “natural born citizen” in the English language at the time the Constitution was written is clear that the requirement is met by being born on American soil. Had the Framers wished to place additional requirements, they certainly could have done so. But they did not.

”If you, as a former military officer, educated at West Point, disagree with that premise, I feel sorry for the lack of depth, cognizance and knowledge of American history you obviously gained from your prestigious education.”

That’s okay. We do not need your approbation. We will do our duty and defend you anyway.

”Again, I laugh at your Tea Party ridicule. Ask former Gov. Corzine, former Gov. Creigh Deeds, and Martha Coakley about that .. just for starters. You need to bone up on your research.”

You keep saying that. Are you sure you don’t have me confused with somebody else?
609 posted on 02/11/2010 8:11:00 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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To: EnderWiggins; STARWISE; All

“Such a child would absolutely be Constitutionally eligible to run for and become president of the United States.”

Forget about the child being eligible to run for president — the fact that he/she would be an citizen has ramifications that are bad enough.

We already have illegal immigration whereby we are being culturally raped, but your attitude is that everything is just Hunky Dory!

Yeah, I know, we’re “alarmist” that “think the sky is falling.”

Well, guess what? ...the sky IS f**k*ng falling!

And don’t worry about “defending” us, because soon — if Obamasky has his way — there won’t be an America (for all practical purposes) left to defend!

The subversion of our country is almost complete.

Hear Ex-KGB Uri Bezmenov when he says “we” — the agents of ideological/physiological warfare — couldn’t BELIEVE how successful we were!

He said this in 1985... 25 years ago!

The KGB and the brain washing of the West:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytc9mApHMIs&feature=related

Here he talks about the “useful idiots” and how they are used until their “usefulness” runs out.

Uri Bezmenov On Ideological Indoctrination - Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkPkJInUmU&feature=related

See the whole series to understand how the SAME techniques of ideological subversion — UNELECTED people: “czars,” State Run Media, so called civil rights groups(such as La Raza) and other assorted groups, etc. — come between the true interests of the people: to the benefit of their would be Marxist dictators.

Obama’s Marxist mentors have schooled him well!

Why conquer by force when the sheeple — without firing a shot — can be subverted from within?

The stage of “demoralization” was over ripe
when a large portion of the American people decided to fart a big “Mea Culpa” — for all the “terrible” and “oppressive” things America had done to the rest of the world, — and went ahead and voted for someone that hated America even more than they had learned to hate themselves.

Next stage is destablelization... tank the economy, institute a welfare state, etc.

It only takes three to five years to reach destabilization: Obama is well on his way!

Next stage is “crisis” — it only takes a few weeks! (not years)

That’s when we get a chance to find out what side of the fence “Wiggie” REALLY stands on.

Remember: “ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing” (Edmund Burke)

Next comes the stage of “normalization” — as it’s cynically called.

“normalization” lasts indefinitely.

Not to spoil a good story...let me just say there’s a “special” surprise in store for the “useful idiots”(that helped make it all happen) before “normalization” is completed.

Bezmenov continues on the demoralization of America:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBshLCx2elI&feature=related

Bezmenov (25 years ago): “it’s the system — however ridiculous it may sound — the world communist system or the world commonest conspirisy... whether I scare some people or not, I don’t give a hoot... eh, if you are not scared by now, NOTHING can scare you! (snip) The time bomb is ticking... with every second the DISASTER is coming closer and closer... unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to... this is it, this is the LAST country of freedom and possibility.”

The DISASTER has now arrived and his name is Obama the usurper.

Constitutional schooler and former presidential candidate, Alan Keyes, calls Obama an “usurper and a radical comunist”... and if those terms are good enough for Keyes — who has more understanding of our constitution in his little finger than ANY Obama apologist has in their whole body — then those terms are good enough for me!

Alan Keyes rightly calls Obama a radical communist:

“He’s going to destroy this country... we’re either going to STOP him, or the United States Of America is going to cease to exist.” (Alan Keyes)

In the mean time those who are fighting desperately to stop him are denigrated as “kooks” and “nuts.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DlTgrMCxPg

Frankly, I’d rather live free in a country with “kooks” and “nuts” — that enjoy liberty — than cowering in a country of “enlightened” slaves!

You are either for us or you are against us!

Some parting words for those who are against us:

“If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen” (Samuel Adams)

STE=Q


622 posted on 02/11/2010 4:25:11 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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