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To: Seizethecarp
"When I go to the above link I find that HI statute 572-1(3) outlaws bigamous marriages currently."
Correct! However, as I stated prior, I can not find any info regarding "polygamy" in the state of HI in 1961. Bigamy, yes, found it. Outlawed. Polygamy? Don't know. Haven't seen it. Is it possible she knew who he was, and that it was therefore a polygamous marriage? Yes. Possible. After-all, we are talking about a commie hippie type...that sort of "lifestyle" would fit right up their ally (some of them, anyway).

"From what I read in the Kenya Marriage Act of 1902, bigamy/polygamy was illegal for all persons including tribal or Muslim marriages"
That's fine. But were not talking about the Kenyan laws here. He wouldn't have inherited his British "citizenship" via their laws anyway, so that's not in play here. Even his F.T.S. web site doesn't cite the Kenyan laws...only the 1948 BNA.

"the 1948 BNA only applies to legitimate children of BHO Sr."
And there in lies the point. Until it's proven in a court of law, that the marriage was illegal (for whatever reason), the state of HI believed it was a legal marriage. We can discuss and argue all we want on FR. That doesn't overrule the divorce document that states otherwise. I, personally, have no idea weather or not they were legally married. I am not SADO, or Sr., so I don't know the "facts" of the issue. Do I think that "chances" are that it probably wasn't legal. Yeah. Probably not. What I do know for a fact though, is what I see in the HI court documents that lists them as being legally married. I also see his campaign web site as saying his "birth status was governed by Great Britain." Well, how could it have done that if they were not legally married?

So, as I've stated before...let the discovery begin so we can get to the truth of the matter!

"Only discovery and litigation on the merits in HI, UK and Kenya would establish whether BHO II was governed by the 1948 BNA and was thus a dual-citizen and subject of the Queen at birth."
Exactly!

Cheers!

133 posted on 02/09/2010 4:19:16 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; LucyT; BP2; butterdezillion
"That's fine. But were not talking about the Kenyan laws here. He wouldn't have inherited his British "citizenship" via their laws anyway, so that's not in play here. Even his F.T.S. web site doesn't cite the Kenyan laws...only the 1948 BNA." "I also see his campaign web site as saying his "birth status was governed by Great Britain." Well, how could it have done that if they were not legally married?"

The Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 was a UK Colonial law in effect prior to Kenyan independence when Obama was born, so Obama's father would have been under the UK 1948 BNA, not Kenya law.

Are we to believe what Obama's campaign put on Factcheck?

Obama's lawyers were very sneaky when they put the "governed by the 1948 BNA" language on Factcheck. If you look at it again it says:

"As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."

Obama's lawyers fail to mention that the BNA of 1948 does not apply to illegitimate children of BHO Sr. During the campaign, the romantic color-blind union between Obama's father and his mother wouldn't have seemed so noble if it were an invalid bigamy and his mother a victim of a man with no character. A bigamous marriage would make Obama technically illegitimate...and a unitary citizenship NBC if born in HI with a single US citizen mother, from what I read.

Not that I believe anything in "Dreams" but in dreams Obama/Ayers says that he is most proud of his older brother, Roy Obama (first child of BHO Sr and Kezia) because Roy converted to Islam!

This means that Kezia and Obama Sr. did not raise Roy (or name Roy) as a Muslim as would be expected if Kezia was Muslim or her marriage to BHO Sr. was Muslim as some have tried to claim to justify a supposedly polygamous marriage in Kezia's tribal area of Kenya which not Muslim.

But I am totally with you on trying to gain discovery in HI and, I would add, further authentication of the CPGH BC to the extent possible.

134 posted on 02/09/2010 4:49:15 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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