[Oceander]

I have to be the party pooper here but you can't try a sitting president for passing (signing) laws you don't like. You can't even sue him for that. Liberals tried that with Bush and the courts threw it out. How about the way the dems did it? Elections!

Without passing on the merits of the OP's questions, I don't think that that's what the OP or any of the other responses had in mind.

One still places the bulk of one's hopes in elections, but considering that the course of behaviour chosen by Reid, Pelosi, and Obama only makes sense if no future election could present a threat to their continued (ab)use of power, one begins to wonder just exactly what they and their crypto-soviet fellow travellers in organizations like SEIU have in mind.

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[sickoflibs]

RE :”One still places the bulk of one's hopes in elections, but considering that the course of behaviour chosen by Reid, Pelosi, and Obama only makes sense if no future election could present a threat to their continued (ab)use of power, one begins to wonder just exactly what they and their crypto-soviet fellow travellers in organizations like SEIU have in mind. “

Really? If they couldn't steal liberal MA how can they steal Ohio for example?

[sickoflibs]

RE :” but considering that the course of behaviour chosen by Reid, Pelosi, and Obama only makes sense if no future election could present a threat to their continued (ab)use of power, ‘

You could be misreading this. If they know they will lose big, all the more reason to try to get something done. Plus not doing anything kills them too. At least passing something gets some democrats out to vote. And given they are bleeding, no way will they get a bill with Republicans and liberals together(what Obama really needs) . Neither side wants a deal like that. They are out of options.