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McCain: GOP willing to start over on health care (snatching defeat from the jaws of victory)
CBS / Politico ^ | 2010-01-24 | Alex Isenstadt

Posted on 01/24/2010 2:08:30 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: Finny

self-ping to good activist post


81 posted on 01/24/2010 3:35:55 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Gene Eric

You dance with those who brung you in this business. McCain has made Palin a household name. She is doing the right thing for her own future.


82 posted on 01/24/2010 3:49:37 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787
McCain is not going to undermine his caucus, his leadership (McConnell), or Scott Brown by letting the RATS off the hook. McCain’s comments today on health care were already pre-cleared with McConnell and Kyl.

Oh, right. After years of stabbing conservatives in the back and being the "Maverick" we're supposed to believe he's changed?

83 posted on 01/24/2010 3:57:11 PM PST by raybbr
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To: rabscuttle385
McCain said Republicans should "say we'd be willing to start over from the beginning," saying the party would like to address malpractice reform, and transportability of coverage across state lines.

The next time I get another solicitation from the RNC for a contribution, I can enclose this quote with an added hand-written note: "Get this clown off the stage and maybe you will see some money from me. Until then, I can't tell the difference between you and the Democrats. Sending you people money now is like giving cash to a drug addict and expecting you to buy a new suit so you can look for a job."

84 posted on 01/24/2010 4:19:52 PM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: raybbr

Fine - you distrust McCain. Suit yourself.

I think you’ll find that McCain is more of a headache when the GOP is in the majority than when we are in the minority.

McCain has Hayworth on his heels. McCain cannot cut a deal or he invites disaster for himself; and I assure you that everything he said has been cleared by McConnell and Kyl. We want to appear reasonable and willing to talk. This is for MSM and public consumption only. We want to keep the focus on the RATs and their ineptitude in getting a bill passed with overwhelming majorities in both chambers.

Every day that goes by is one day closer to November 2010. Let’s enjoy the Scott Brown win and the political earthquake that has hit DC. McCain is NOT going to undermine Scott Brown, and to his credit McCain supported Brown before any other GOP senator did.

I despise McCain, he was an abysmal candidate for our party, but he is sending the right signals of accommodation for now. It is entirely for public consumption to keep the heat on the RATs and to divide them further.


85 posted on 01/24/2010 4:21:11 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787
McCain has Hayworth on his heels. McCain cannot cut a deal or he invites disaster for himself; and I assure you that everything he said has been cleared by McConnell and Kyl. We want to appear reasonable and willing to talk. This is for MSM and public consumption only. We want to keep the focus on the RATs and their ineptitude in getting a bill passed with overwhelming majorities in both chambers.

Yeah? Wait till amnesty comes up. Or, Cap and Trade.

I despise McCain and he is simply using the situation to get himself re-elected. I REALLY wish he would go away and let someone with a future in.

86 posted on 01/24/2010 4:29:42 PM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Fine. Despise McCain. Palin evidently does not share your position. Argue with her, not with me.


87 posted on 01/24/2010 4:32:54 PM PST by mwl8787
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Didn’t that new MA Senator elect indicate he was willing to work for new health care?


88 posted on 01/24/2010 4:39:10 PM PST by deport (37 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: mwl8787

That brings up another point. I will no longer support Palin if she doesn’t give McCain a pass.


89 posted on 01/24/2010 4:40:19 PM PST by raybbr
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To: rabscuttle385
... saying the party would like to address malpractice reform, and transportability of coverage across state lines.

Those are two good places to start. Equalizing the tax treatment of employer provided and individually purchased insurance would help as well.

In principle, health benefits should count as taxable income, but that's probably politically radioactive at this point. A good way to proceed would be to allow a generous refundable tax credit for the purchase of insurance, with funds not used for insurance becoming cash income.

Come to think of it, some fellow named George Bush proposed that. Think enough time has passed for someone else to rediscover the idea?

90 posted on 01/24/2010 4:40:25 PM PST by sphinx
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To: raybbr

Palin has already committed to campaigning for McCain in March. As I said, you dance with those who brung ya in this business. It’s a smart move on her part if she has presidential ambitions - broadens her conatituency.


91 posted on 01/24/2010 4:57:00 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787

Constituency - typo.


92 posted on 01/24/2010 4:58:41 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: deport

Again, foe public consumption only. Brown is going thru the “healing statements” for Massachusetts. The likelihood of ANY deal is probably 1 percent. Why would the GOP let the RATS off the hook 10 months before November? Won’t happen.


93 posted on 01/24/2010 5:05:03 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: mwl8787

>> You dance with those who brung you in this business. McCain has made Palin a household name. She is doing the right thing for her own future.

B.S. He used Palin. She helped to prevent his campaign from becoming a miserable disaster.

McCain’s campaign continued to work against Palin long after the battle for POTUS was over. Does the name Schmidt ring a bell?

Palin was brought aboard to help McCain win the Presidency, not to do favors for a soccer mom in Alaska.

Palin owes McCain nothing.


94 posted on 01/24/2010 6:04:34 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: rabscuttle385

More ammo for J.D.


95 posted on 01/24/2010 6:18:00 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Oh yeah, that’s right John, keep the bill alive.


96 posted on 01/24/2010 6:19:35 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: mwl8787

Sorry pal, most of us have been paying ATTENTION for the last nine years.

If you think McInsane is serving anything but McInsane, with his reach-across-the-aisle stupidity (i.e., McCain-Feingold, Amnesty, Gang of 14, etc etc) you need your head examined.

McInsane is the enemy of conservatism, and he has got to GO!!!


97 posted on 01/24/2010 7:18:17 PM PST by DC Ripper
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To: rabscuttle385

fine then if he wants to play RINO .. start with TORT reform and don;t budge till they come to a consensus on that.

that should take long enough for Obama to be out of office in itself.


98 posted on 01/24/2010 11:48:36 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: DC Ripper

I’ve been paying plenty of ATTENTION over the years and I don’t need any lectures from you.

McCain is hardly my favorite senator and he was a lousy presidential candidate, as well. I don’t like the bipartisan schtick from McCain any more than you do.

That said, McCain is bringing Palin on board to help with his re-election and that is a smart move on both of their parts. As to those who suggest Palin owes McCain nothing, that is absurd on its face. He selected a long-shot, an entirely unknown female Governor and has made her a household name.

You can scream and whine until the cows come home, but Hayworth is not going to defeat McCain in the GOP primary and McCain will be around for another 6 years.


99 posted on 01/25/2010 5:52:09 AM PST by mwl8787
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