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To: BillCompton
And you do know they through the box away without ever recording the info that is on the box. Nor does the distribution center on receiving or on shipping. And I too have been dealing with fresh produce shipping daily...for 25 years.

Oh, really? Stores & distribution centers/warehouses save no documentation? We are required by law to keep ALL shipping docs for a certain number of years, as well as every warehouse/distribution center in the USA. You also obviously have never been to a produce farm. You obviously have never seen how the some of the worst sheds handle the produce during packaging. And, you obviously have never heard of “don't drink the water in Mexico.

I have personally seen or been involved in every aspect of produce from picking, to packaging to shipping for over 30 years. Mostly dealing with produce coming from Mexico or South America, Arizona & California. We currently deliver to warehouses as well as stores directly and every i has to be dotted & every t crossed and the origin of the product is on every shipping bill of lading in which they keep a copy of.

I have seen all the horrors from illegal immigrants defecating in the produce fields to the disgusting regurgitated water they supposedly use so they can call the product pre-washed.

Pre-washed my a$$, pre-washed in waste, and that is in California. and if employees are getting sick from merely handling the produce, then there is an in-house problem with handwashing before those hands come in contact with the face/mouth. Most quality sheds in Cali make their employees wear rubber gloves when working with the produce.

It is common sense to wash all food when you do not know personally the farm in which it came from. Even then, you should still wash it.

So, I say ‘Horse Hockey’, we have eaten produce straight off the truck, but never before carefully & properly washing it first and we have never gotten sick from it. Even the product from Mexico.

More government bureaucracy is not the answer. That will only lead to skyrocketing food costs because of all bureaucratic red crap!

41 posted on 01/22/2010 7:44:10 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: patlin
Oh, really? Stores & distribution centers/warehouses save no documentation? We are required by law to keep ALL shipping docs for a certain number of years, as well as every warehouse/distribution center in the USA

Maybe you and I could dial the passion back a notch or two.

Yes the BOLs have some details on them that are useful for traceability. But if you will recall, you said the farm was on each box. That is great, if you have the original carton, which you probably won't.

During the 2008 event, competent people used the current data and tried to figure out the source. The 257 sick people implicated the entire tomato industry...because the tomatoes were not the cause. I suggest that if the PTI had been implemented at the time, they would have concluded that tomatoes could not be the cause within a few days of the original sicknesses. That would have saved tens of millions of dollars in destroyed produce.

You seem like a knowledgeable guy. If you were to target (as a terrorist) the produce industry, could you not basically destroy the whole industry for months at a time? Then we are not talking about tens of millions, but many billions of dollars. Not to mention long-term damage to the industry (some people would be afraid of fresh produce.)
43 posted on 01/23/2010 5:42:22 AM PST by BillCompton
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