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3 Cheers for Obama’s defeat-no cheer from the RINO victory - ALAN KEYES
Loyal to Liberty ^ | January 20, 2010 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 01/20/2010 9:50:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance

Loyal to Liberty

Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Alan Keyes

 

I can't help but look at Scott Brown's win in Massachusetts in the context of the larger strategy clearly being implemented by the RINO (Republican-In-Name-Only) clique that currently controls the GOP. Sean Hannity is the clique's bellwether media tool. It was no coincidence that he featured Mitt Romney on his program last night to revel in the Scott Brown victory. Scott Brown in Massachusetts is the advance guard for Mitt Romney in the White House (or vice-versa). He becomes the poster child for the RINO clique's archetypal GOP candidate who:

As long as the RINO clique can gull the conservative base of the GOP into identifying with and celebrating the success of such candidates, principled conservatives will never (or very rarely) win elections; conservative policies will never be implemented; and the tragic decline of America's liberty will continue to its inevitably ruinous conclusion.


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To: dirtboy
Like I said, we’ll have to see what sorts out. But he has said he is a vote against the health care reform as written, and his election has scared the crap out of the Dem swing votes need to get it through the House.

I agree.

I truly hope that it does not become an "I told you so" moment.

281 posted on 01/20/2010 2:31:27 PM PST by pby
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To: pby

There actually are some things that could be done at the federal level that are Constitutional and effective. Allowing insurance companies to work across state lines. Expanding health savings accounts. Conservative solutions. Hopefully, those might get some traction now.


282 posted on 01/20/2010 2:33:46 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Looking at the cited statement, I don't reasonably see the basis for calling Keyes a liar.

Having no difference with the socialist minded Democrats is a broad, broad statement.

In principle, like a socialist minded Democrat, Brown supports, among other things, government run health care and taxpayer funded abortions.

A politician, at his core beliefs,in his guiding principles, that can support and advocate for governemnt run health care is different...how?

283 posted on 01/20/2010 2:40:18 PM PST by pby
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To: pby
Having no difference with the socialist minded Democrats is a broad, broad statement.

I showed a key difference. There are others as well. Therefore 'no' difference is a lie.

284 posted on 01/20/2010 2:42:58 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
By the way, one could be a socialist minded Democrat and still oppose amnesty.

Opposition to amesty does not prevent one from being defined as a socialist as far as the definition goes.

285 posted on 01/20/2010 2:43:23 PM PST by pby
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To: dirtboy
If you don't believe in the right to live those other things don't matter much to those who have been killed as a result.

Those who will sell out the babies and our most fundamental principle as a nation, which is the securing and protection of the God-given and therefore unalienable rights to life and liberty, will sell out ANYTHING, if political expediency dictates. Wake up. They do it over and over and over again.

Why don't you listen to your candidate? He made it clear to the Boston Herald that he relishes the thought of the Dems coming to him to make deals.

Your willful self-deception, and that of the rest of the Brown supporters, is dangerous.

By the way, the post-election evidence that I've been right about this all along is already coming in. Today, Brown said that his election was not a referendum on Obama. How do you like that?

286 posted on 01/20/2010 2:44:08 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: pby
Opposition to amesty does not prevent one from being defined as a socialist as far as the definition goes.

Amnesty to me is a socialist position - because of the welfare increases that would go with such.

287 posted on 01/20/2010 2:44:27 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: EternalVigilance
If you don't believe in the right to live those other things don't matter much to those who have been killed as a result.

And therefore you can lie about them. Gotcha.

288 posted on 01/20/2010 2:45:14 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I agree with you and those things are a far cry from the Brown supported government run health care.

And...don't forget tort reform.

289 posted on 01/20/2010 2:45:26 PM PST by pby
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To: EternalVigilance

BTW, EV, Keyes is the one who raised the socialist argument, not me. I am countering that claim.


290 posted on 01/20/2010 2:46:07 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I didn’t lie about anything. Why do you keep saying that?


291 posted on 01/20/2010 2:46:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dirtboy
BTW, EV, Keyes is the one who raised the socialist argument, not me. I am countering that claim.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Brown is a liberal pro-abort socialist Romneyite, and you're defending him.

292 posted on 01/20/2010 2:47:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

You and Keyes lie by omission. You don’t even mention Brown’s opposition to amnesty (Having another Senate vote is key to stopping the next push to stop such), and that is a key conservative position (and one that Keyes has actively embraced). But then you wouldn’t be able to claim he’s just like a Democrat...


293 posted on 01/20/2010 2:49:14 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: EternalVigilance
I don't know what you're talking about.

Try reading what you posted.

294 posted on 01/20/2010 2:49:44 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I would agree that the more socialist minded are those who are also usually for amnesty, but the definition of socialism does not demand amnesty.


295 posted on 01/20/2010 2:50:07 PM PST by pby
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To: EternalVigilance
Keyes said this:

Has no differences in principle with the socialist minded Democrats;

And that is a lie.

296 posted on 01/20/2010 2:50:46 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: EternalVigilance; dirtboy
By the way, the post-election evidence that I've been right about this all along is already coming in. Today, Brown said that his election was not a referendum on Obama. How do you like that?

Ouch...so much for all of the conservative celebrating!

Maybe Brown can join McCain and make it a Gang of Fifteen.

297 posted on 01/20/2010 2:53:47 PM PST by pby
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To: dirtboy
You don’t even mention Brown’s opposition to amnesty

Funny coming from someone who certainly isn't going around talking about Brown's primary role in the passage of the RomneyCare socialized medicine scheme, complete with its $50 co-pay abortions.

I also don't see you trumpeting the fact that the whole Brown campaign was engineered by Mitt Romney's inner circle of experienced, talented and completely unprincipled RINO liars.

Come on, dirtboy, let's have full disclosure!

By the way, John McCain says he's "against amnesty" too.

Among RINO politicians that could mean most anything.

298 posted on 01/20/2010 3:01:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: the long march; sam_paine; dsc

Listen, for many it is a matter of conscience to refuse to vote for any pro-choice candidate, especially those who for whatever reason have been personally affected by abortion. I appreciate how God in his providence has used such a person to derail Obamacare. I am as delighted as anyone else to see this happen. And I am grateful to the people of MA who did vote for him on grounds of liberty.

But life and the sanctity of it should not ever be a political bargaining chip. The sanctity of a human life is the logical basis of conservative philosophy in toto. What is this freedom we cling to so hard, over which we fought so hard with respect to Obamacare? It is, ultimately, an expression of respect for an individual’s life, the right and the power to have and use that life as one sees fit, without interference from tyrants or boors. Once we cross the threshold and say, freedom is good, but only if you manage to get out of your mother’s womb all in one piece, we are logically a step closer to saying what the left says, that freedom is good, but only under the terms and conditions determined by the state.

Without sanctity of life at it’s core, conservatism becomes like the empty skin of a grasshopper, convincingly carrying the form of the thing that once lived within, and able to fool those seeing it at a distance, but devoid of an inner life, and prone to blow with the strongest wind that comes along. Semi-conservatives like Brown are better than pseudo-conservatives, but they lack root, and will disappoint us later. Guaranteed. It’s in the logic.


299 posted on 01/20/2010 3:22:43 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: dsc

“Of course I do. He couldn’t get everything he wanted, but he always knew which way was up.”

Did he know which way was up on gun control, amnesty, etc.?


300 posted on 01/20/2010 3:26:20 PM PST by Reno232
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