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3 Cheers for Obama’s defeat-no cheer from the RINO victory - ALAN KEYES
Loyal to Liberty ^ | January 20, 2010 | Alan Keyes

Posted on 01/20/2010 9:50:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The hatred of Keyes is, was and always will be about abortion.

Uh, no. I am pro-life - however, Keyes seeks to turn such a position into a losing cause instead of a winning one the way Reagan did.

101 posted on 01/20/2010 10:58:52 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: EternalVigilance
How exactly do you win for conservatism by electing liberals?

False dichotomy. Since Brown isn't a "liberal," the question is moot.

You win by knowing which districts you can run a real red-meat conservative in and which districts you have to run someone who is centre-right in. The candidate you can win with in South Carolina or Idaho is not the one you can win with in Massachusetts or California - and that cuts both ways.

Seriously, if you're not smart enough to figure this out, then you're American Independalist Party or whatever is never going to get off the ground.

102 posted on 01/20/2010 10:59:23 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: dirtboy
So he is hardly in a position to offer advice how to win statewide office. That is my larger point - purity is fine and dandy, but Brown did what Keyes could never do - win in a blue state.

I think Keyes is a kook, but where is he offering advice on how to win statewide office? I have a problem with Scott Brown voting to use MA taxpayer funds to pay for abortions. I'll always have a problem with it, and I don't see how it fits into the future of the GOP.

103 posted on 01/20/2010 10:59:23 AM PST by Carling (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.)
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To: the long march

“Look by not voting for Brown all one does is GUARANTEE that The One’s health care gets passed. That GUARANTEES that abortions will be paid for by the US taxpayer. Why not take a class in logic so you can see some depth to your positions”

Nonsense. Your argument is based only on that groundless belief that real conservatives are unelectable, and you just don’t get further from logic than that.


104 posted on 01/20/2010 11:00:25 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: EternalVigilance
"Has no differences in principle with the socialist minded Democrats;"

"Embraces the substance of Obama's socialist agenda, but "opposes" Obama by criticizing his implementation of socialism, especially when it comes to fiscal matters;"

"Agrees in principle with the Democrats on the fundamental issues of justice and morality"

HUH?

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Why I'm Running...

America is a great country but we also have some challenges that we need to solve if we're going to remain the world's superpower. The most important of our challenges is getting the U.S. economy moving again. People are hurting as they struggle to make ends meet. They're worried about their future, and that of their children and grandchildren. I want to ensure that we leave them an America that is financially stronger and independent: minus a national debt that we can never repay.

Health Care

I believe that all Americans deserve health care coverage, but I am opposed to the health care legislation that is under consideration in Congress and will vote against it. It will raise taxes, increase government spending and lower the quality of care, especially for elders on Medicare. I support strengthening the existing private market system with policies that will drive down costs and make it easier for people to purchase affordable insurance. In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage, but I also recognize that the state must now turn its attention to controlling costs.

Economy

I am a free enterprise advocate who believes that lower taxes can encourage economic growth. Raising taxes stifles growth, weakens the economy and puts more people out of work. Our economy works best when individuals have more of their income to spend, and businesses have money to invest and add jobs. I have been a fiscal watchdog in the state legislature fighting bigger government, higher taxes and wasteful spending.

Energy and Environment

I support common-sense environment policy that will help to reduce pollution and preserve our precious open spaces. I realize that without action now, future generations will be left to clean up the mess we leave. In order to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, I support reasonable and appropriate development of alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal and improved hydroelectric facilities. I oppose a national cap and trade program because of the higher costs that families and businesses would incur.

Education

I am passionate about improving the quality of our public schools. Accountability and high standards are paramount. I support choice through charter schools, as well as the MCAS exam as a graduation requirement. I have worked to ensure that all children have access to a quality education. I am a strong advocate for the METCO program, which provides lower income students with broader educational opportunities.

Immigration

I recognize that our strength as a nation is built on the immigrant experience in America. I welcome legal immigration to this country. However, we are also a nation of laws and government should not adopt policies that encourage illegal immigration. Providing driver’s licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrant families will act as a magnet in drawing more people here in violation of the law and it will impose new costs on taxpayers. I oppose amnesty, and I believe we ought to strengthen our border enforcement and institute an employment verification system with penalties for companies that hire illegal immigrants.

Veterans

As a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army National Guard, I am uniquely aware of the importance and sacrifice of our men and women serving in the military. I have been a vigorous supporter of legislation providing benefits to returning service members, as well as, benefits for the families of those killed in action. I believe we need to recognize the sacrifice of all of our servicemembers by keeping better track of returning military personnel so they get the services they deserve. That includes providing them with first-class medical care and other benefits to which they are entitled. I am known as a leader on veterans' issues through my work on the Veterans and Federal Affairs Committee, the Hidden Wounds of War Commission, and the Governor's Task Force on Returning Veterans.

105 posted on 01/20/2010 11:00:45 AM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: EternalVigilance
I can understand the willingness of conservatives to overlook or downplay Brown's stance on abortion to the larger goal of denying Obama and his murdering Marxist Democrats their 61st senate vote and possibly killing their evil abortionist agenda, but we can't just wash our hands of the issue and walk away any more than we could wash our hands and walk away from any other mass murdering tyrannical government operation.

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Support him if you must, but make the calls, write the letters, send the faxes, visit his office and make him realize that the unalienable Right to Life IS a constitutional right and abortion is NOT!!

Jim Robinson

Scott Brown vs the Marxist/mass abortionist B. Hussein Obama

I think all the giddy Freepers posting old Cosmo pictures of Senator Brown and talking about him running for VP need to go outside and get some clear air.

106 posted on 01/20/2010 11:00:57 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The hatred of Keyes is, was and always will be about abortion. Nothing else. These threads are useful for pro-abort Repubs to rent their rage against "SoCons" and portray Keyes' election losses as an outright repudiation of the rights of the unborn (even though a majority of Americans are Pro Life).

LOL, ten-to-one says I'm more socially conservative than you are.

107 posted on 01/20/2010 11:01:24 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Carling
I think Keyes is a kook, but where is he offering advice on how to win statewide office?

He is decrying how Brown won. From someone who never has.

108 posted on 01/20/2010 11:02:01 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“...That would save hundreds of thousands of lives a year, right there - the federalism way. ...”

If we want to return to true conservative principles, then we we must stop insisting that the federal govt solve these problems and let the states deal with them.

We cannot both strive for a small government while giving it more authority.

Trying to pass any type of federal law that -restricts- any rights of any citizen is misguided and wrong-headed. If those laws ought to be, they need to be with the states.

I am not alone in this view.

Also, the more “constitutional” republican/conservatives become, the less of a threat we are to the personal liberties of other citizens, and it takes the fire out of the opposition, because we would no longer be setting the fed on them whenever they do something we don’t like.

That makes federalists more electable, and I think this was a factor with Scott Brown. But I am still learning who he is.


109 posted on 01/20/2010 11:03:39 AM PST by Miykayl
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To: rintense
So, IOW, if you’re against gay marriage, you have a problem with the Constitution?

Could you people try to be at least a little honest? Even a little?

110 posted on 01/20/2010 11:03:42 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: dsc

His constituents thought they were electing the Scott Brown who campaigned hard and explained his positions. Don’t think for a single moment that Mass. is a conservative state—— never has been never will be


111 posted on 01/20/2010 11:03:46 AM PST by the long march
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To: EternalVigilance
It's like asking Bill Clinton to protect your daughter's chastity.

Yes, it is. I agree. Good analogy.

Brown vs Coakley is like we're in Haiti today, and you have a choice of sending your daughter off with Bill Clinton in a marine helicopter or off in a bus with Haitian gangbangers.

We agree on where we should go. We simply differ on how to get there.

You want to go directly to church by crossing the median, driving off the bridge and straight through the river.

I think we out to follow the road until we get to the right exit.

You're going to get stuck.

112 posted on 01/20/2010 11:04:00 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
False dichotomy. Since Brown isn't a "liberal," the question is moot.

Pro-abortion. "No litmus test" for judges. Helped craft and pass the RomneyCare socialized medicine scheme. Fully staffed with high-level Romney insiders. Believes in the global warming scam. Makes no bones about his desire to cut deals with the Democrats in the Senate.

If it walks like a duck...

113 posted on 01/20/2010 11:04:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: dsc

Since you have such a low opinion of my knowledge and intelligence, how can you assert that my ignorance of electable conservatives in Massachusetts means that there aren’t any?

So hot shot NAME ONE


114 posted on 01/20/2010 11:04:53 AM PST by the long march
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To: lonevoice
it was Keyes who opened the door wide for Obama in Illinois

Was there a better candidate that Keyes prevented from entering the race at the 11th hour after the disgraced Jack Ryan dropped out?

115 posted on 01/20/2010 11:05:12 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: EternalVigilance

116 posted on 01/20/2010 11:05:20 AM PST by Neets
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To: EternalVigilance
Once you get to the general election you only have 2 real choices.

We need to get active before the primaries so RINOs are not on the ballot. If we let the GOP dictate which progressive RINO we are to blindly follow, you all know what you will be stepping in sooner or later.

Get active! Make sure that qualified conservatives and not dem-lites are put on the general election ballot.

117 posted on 01/20/2010 11:05:46 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: dsc

NAME A SINGLE REAL CONSERVATIVE WHO HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED IUN MASSACHUTES??????

Your’s is the logioc that will insure Nancy Pelosi and her type are always and forever in power


118 posted on 01/20/2010 11:06:19 AM PST by the long march
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To: sam_paine

The conservative movement is not going to get anywhere until it becomes unwilling to compromise essential principles on the altar of political expediency. The sucker’s game will continue until the suckers wise up.


119 posted on 01/20/2010 11:06:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Answer the question. They are your words, not mine.


120 posted on 01/20/2010 11:06:58 AM PST by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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