Tea Party Convention's false premise

TPN Convention News ^ | 01/19/10 | davidfarrar

[o_zarkman44]

“The problem is, that’s precisely the plan we have been following for the last thirty years in America policy.”

I disagree. Most people have been relatively uninvolved in the selection of candidates, leaving that up to a group of party elite who have interests beyond the people at stake.
Subsequently the people have been stuck with only a vote for choices that we know are not even close to our expectations.
But we are told, vote the party, swallow our values, and keep the other evil party out of office at all costs. INCLUDING the cost of a loss of representation of our values.

For the most part, GOP political candidates have been nothing but window dressing RINO’s.

My approach is that we regain party control by retaking local committee chairs, retaking county and regional conventions, and ultimately retaking the conservative control of state GOP political organizations. We then have the ability to draft platforms, planks, and endorse candidates we believe in rather than the current system of party elite pandering us with window dressing candidates.

I don’t know about you. But I am tired of being on the losing side of every election regardless of my beliefs. And I suspect 95% of tea partiers are feeling disenfranchised in the process for the same reasons. We have to be involved in the drafting and vetting process of candidates so they present values more to our liking.

[longun45]

The problem as I see it is that it is not about republican or democrat. It’s about the country and where we want to go. This is about a progressive vs conservative course and where freedom will lay. This election is about becoming slaves to government or do we shrink government and get it out of the way.

Do we have more intrusive government like England, higher taxes. Or do we want freedom to follow the American dream

There will not be any large amount of progress with this election. It will be a temporary stopping movement and will need reinforcements in 2012 to help reduce the size of government.

The state and federal government has far too much influence in areas that are not their business. Education is a primary example and the results anywhere in the nation are indisputably bad. Federal mandates choke our schools and the students cannot learn as much as they should.

Businesses are choked with uncertainty, high regulation, high taxes, and slimmer profits. Businesses are not hiring and will not be for the foreseeable future. There is no such thing as a jobless recovery. If there are no jobs you have no recovery.

As I started this election is about becoming progressives or do we shrink government. Conservatives are welcome. Progressive Republicans are not welcome. Conservative Democrats are welcome. Progressives will show them selves fairly quickly and will be turned out.

Do we become a Detroit? Or do we free ourselves of known bad outcomes.
This is the choice with this election.

[oldenuff2no]

Yes I do think these are liberal talking points since I first read the same type of comments on liberal blogs.
If it walks like a duck.....

[the_conscience]

Principle before policy.

[oldenuff2no]

Liberals believe in the constitution, KINDA. They just want to change a couple parts in the bill of rights and tweak those two or three amendments that were passed later on. Sooner or later and with enough changes the Constitution will work for them.
I don't see much difference. At the very least this is the mother of slippery slopes. If fact it looks like a greased vertical slope to me. I don't care how you rationalize this proposition you are still calling for the change of our constitution. It does not need changed, it needs to be upheld by our courts as it is. We need to design a system that allows the supreme court to hold lower court judges accountable for decisions that violate our constitution. We need accountability for judges who want to legislate from the bench.

[DavidFarrar]

Most tea party movement supporters would have no problem supporting the present Republican Party political platform, but that hasn’t stopped Congressional Republicans from supporting government growth and higher taxes.

I have spent the last 15 years as a local party executive committeeman. I know what I am talking about. Most local executive committee members are good, honest, grassroot members who fully support their party’s political platform. But they know full-well in the end, it doesn’t matter what they think, or who they vote for, it’s who can raise the bucks for the campaign that will have the final say in determining the policies the candidate will follow once in office.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[DavidFarrar]

Talk is cheap. Post the URL.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[DavidFarrar]

Good suggestion. I will put the election of all judges, including the Supreme Court as a plank.

Thank you.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[DavidFarrar]

Look, people have been paying attention for at least the past thirty years, ever since at least Goldwater. Where have you been?

We have elected very good people, with very good characters to public office. The problem is, they have to play by the present rules that have allowed far too much of a separation from elected officeholders power and their own constituents’ power to remove them.

Yes, it’s up to us to fix it. But it will not be fixed simply by electing good people to office. It will take more than that. The last thirty years have shown us that much.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[DavidFarrar]

I am not suggesting that we turn the Tea Party movement into a centralized or nationalized movement. I am simply putting forth the proposition that putting the right people into high public office didn’t solve the problem the last time and it won’t solve the problem this time.

Your suggestion about reducing the number of planks is a very good one. One that I will do in the end to the essential one, or two.

1. Congressional Term Limits: One four or six year term limits.

2. Members of Congress shall enact the flat tax, with no exemptions up to a set minimum amount.

2a. Members of Congress shall restore the federal income tax deduction for medical expenses, including medical insurance expenses.

3. Members of Congress shall equally abide by all laws enacted and imposed on the general public.

ex animo
davidfarrar

[mombrown1]

If “We the people” don’t stay vigilant we will end up like detroitl

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