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To: Seizethecarp; MrRobertPlant2009
"Just because a certified copy of a short-form is deemed “self-authenticating” under FRE, that is only true if it is uncontested in a legal proceding. It can be contested, should such a legal proceeding occur, including discovery. DOJ/Obama will contest such a release in discovery of course, such as in quo warranto, but under the FRE best evidence rule, I suspect DOJ will lose."

Furthermore, strange how the world famous short form has never been entered into any one the (many) court records as "proof" for the defense.

Could it be because an internet pic (or color copy of one) would never be entered as proof in such a case like this...because it isn't. Perhaps the defense agrees that the issue has been thoroughly "blogged and twittered."

/s

66 posted on 01/19/2010 9:53:46 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Why would anyone enter “proof” before there is a trial. They keep knocking these out on standing. No need for “proof.”

If one of these ever actually got to trial, my prediction is that Obama would enter the COLB and win a directed verdict. The end.


68 posted on 01/19/2010 10:00:43 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: rxsid
“Furthermore, strange how the world famous short form has never been entered into any one the (many) court records as “proof” for the defense.”

My recollection is that not a single case has entered the discovery phase during which evidence would be officially entered into the court record after court-ordered subpoenas and depositions all in preparation for being “proved up” during the trial.

So far, it has only been necessary for Obama’s defense team to file for dismissal on the basis that no plaintiff has a right to even be in court to challenge Obama. So there has been no need for the defense to put even the HI short form into evidence. They just didn't have to.

71 posted on 01/19/2010 10:16:16 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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