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To: Darkwolf377
It isn't "Conservative" to categorically dismiss any group's individual members based on the actions of some people in the group, either currently or deep in the group's history.

Let the statements and actions of the individual stand on their merit, and similarly, let the group's current behaviour be measured by the group and not one or two members.

After all, "There is one in every bunch".

If you read the words and view the actions of even some relatively popular Republicans, and with critical thinking ask where their Constitutional authority was for their actions--even some popular actions--then you might look at history a little differently.

The Democrats, especially the New Left, are even worse.

I guess if your 'friends' stab you it doesn't bleed as much, but the Constitution hasn't really been followed since before 1860 and most even here would scream bloody blue murder if it was.

All the lip service paid the people with the 'R' after their name won't change that.

Nor will demeaning those who defend the Constitution, regardless of what others have done in the past.

40 posted on 01/09/2010 10:20:29 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
It isn't "Conservative" to categorically dismiss any group's individual members based on the actions of some people in the group, either currently or deep in the group's history.

So if NAMBLA started calling itself a Republican organization, you'd think a conservative should support them?

Let the statements and actions of the individual stand on their merit, and similarly, let the group's current behaviour be measured by the group and not one or two members.

Where do you get this "one or two members" standard? At what number do you say, "I'm seeing a trend, no matter what the organization's 'official' statements"?

Should we support ACORN because they don't explicitly state they're going to try to steal elections?

After all, "There is one in every bunch".

I've met a lot more than just one, and I've yet to meet the 'one' who is as clean of bizarre ideas as the "official" organization claims. Who should I believe, their "official" position or my lyin' eyes?

If you read the words and view the actions of even some relatively popular Republicans, and with critical thinking ask where their Constitutional authority was for their actions--even some popular actions--then you might look at history a little differently.

You have no idea how I "look at history," so this paragraph is menaingless straw.

The Democrats, especially the New Left, are even worse.

That's not the point--I can't despise both wacko leftists (who never "officially" say they're going to socialize this country--only a few in the bunch SAY it--AND wacko rightists?

I guess if your 'friends' stab you it doesn't bleed as much, but the Constitution hasn't really been followed since before 1860 and most even here would scream bloody blue murder if it was.

Again, straw, has nothing to do with the issue we're discussing.

All the lip service paid the people with the 'R' after their name won't change that.

You're making my point--they pay lip service to their anti-communist stuff, but what do they REALLy do?

Nor will demeaning those who defend the Constitution, regardless of what others have done in the past.

What have the Birchers done to protect the constitution, other than that lip service you're talking about?

56 posted on 01/09/2010 10:36:42 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Bostonian conservative, atheist prolifer)
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