Posted on 01/08/2010 10:20:13 PM PST by spyone
Ditto. Trying to prevent the repercussions of an upcoming series of attacks.
“Very sobering message from Golda Meir’s personal bodyguard.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2422254/posts
In Middle East cultures lying is quite acceptable.
Taqiya.
it’s another lie by muslims to fool folks and sadly many folks will still fall for it.
They are told that they have to fool and pretend t spread their word of allah .
exactly and some on here are falling for it
AARRGGHHH
First of all, I doubt if there are more than three million Muslims in North America, and second the Muslims are commanded by the KORAN to lie to Infidels, and third, while they are against terrorism, they are for JIHAD against Infidels.
What the difference between JIHAD and terrorism?
None.
Yet another diversion and dishonest representation. Didn’t you read the “lost” addendum. It most likely said “we are mooslim. we want to kill you and your children. we want to blow you to bits, hack off your heads or poison you, you non-believers. we will do this as we get you to trust us. we hate you and your decadent western culture. death to the infidel.” moist likely, that was all left off the announcement by this purported “imam”.
Superbowl 2/7
I'm willing to bet there are numerous smaller arrests NOT made in America and Canada that don't get the high profile stuff the ones above listed are given but these high profile failures by Islam to kill innocent Americans once again are making "WE THE PEOPLE" so furious we're slamming Islam ( even after the 7 CIA operators MURDERED in Afghanistan) with attempting to really PROFILE these SOB's the way Israel does this or maybe even stronger. This tie with Israel or even considering this way of "profiling" El Al does is in direct conflict with any Imam's beliefs and shatters the attempts to further ATTACK America because they've again found loopholes in our free system.
Therefore, IF we do go for the profiling Israel does, which would probably be against what even Obama the "present" voter, the psuedo-(alleged)-Christian backslider-pro-muslim-apologizer would never do but if he does this fatwa issued by the Imam would show complete "loss of face( more an asian term but works here) and he can declare all mosques and muslims in America and Canada under attack and foreces muslims here and in Canada to be "forced" to choose all out war.
This is just a perception and I may be wrong but this fatwa was not as much a CYA as it was a carefully planned 'line in the sand" and warning not to step over the boundaries and freedoms the US and Canada has already given muslims. I believe there ARE peaceful muslims but their doctrines if followed through are directly anti- Christian/Jewish atheist, Hindu, Buddhist(ad nauseam) and all other beliefs. Therefore again, this fatwa is not as peaceful as it sounds especially when right in the Qur'an it states one can lie to their enemy( how the CIA operatives were MURDERED) and we are ALL infidels and just dhimmi( if we comply and then taxed or forced into slums NO MATTER we "convert") in their eyes according to their hadith and their Qur'an. The Imam is a sly demon. He's also in a sense issuing a further statement of war which "sounds" so peaceful.
This fatwa to America and Canada is just another move forward to all out antagonism between muslims that want NO part of radical viewpoints to take action IF America and Canada attempt to treat muslims IN ANY WAY as enemy, as second class citizens or whatever CAIR draws up
I call BS on this fatwa. It's the sly setting up of landmines while people actually THINK this is in any way, shape or, form a fatwa of peace toward the very people who the Imam and his followers consider and will always consider INFIDELS. BS! BS! BS! and camel poopie.
It’s war!
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hhhmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . we’ll see . . . . . words are easy, actions are hard.
I don’t know that they have some inside information on something pending.
They may. They may not.”
Yeah, time will tell.
So what are they going to do about it?
They need to instruct all 10 Million muzzies to start giving it up right here on FreeRepublic...fully detailed information on terrorist chatter.
Never mind telling the US government...right now they are worthless.
You could say the same thing about many other religions.
Scroll down to the “history” section. No one is perfect.
http://www.answers.com/topic/israel
Sure. And plenty of people here in this culture lie regularly as well.
But in this instance, since so many individuals are involved, it may be a harbinger of things to come. Muslims coming together, united, to make a cultural/political stance in public. Islam has no central authority like the Roman Catholic Pope in Rome.
Now in the U.S.A., we may have the germ of something unique in all of Islam.
Pleas note I said ‘we may’. I am not going to scoff at these concerted actions on the part of American Muslims, but live the words of Reagan: trust but verify.
Most of my family is on the east coast. My kid walks to High School through my lovely part of town/sarc and I always tell him - Be Vigilant. 80% of communication is non-verbal.
http://www.howcast.com/videos/10608-How-To-Interpret-Body-Language
Interesting read.....
The doctrine of taqiyya
Much of this revolves around the pivotal doctrine of taqiyya, which is often euphemized as “religious dissembling,” though in reality simply connotes “Muslim deception vis-à-vis infidels.” According to the authoritative Arabic text Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam, “Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream. … Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era [p. 7; my own translation].”
Some erroneously believe that taqiyya is an exclusively Shia doctrine: as a minority group interspersed among their traditional enemies, the much more numerous Sunnis, Shias have historically had more “reason” to dissemble. Ironically, however, Sunnis living in the West today find themselves in a similar situation, as they are now the minority surrounded by their historic enemies — Christian infidels.
The primary Koranic verse sanctioning deception vis-à-vis non-Muslims states: “Let believers [Muslims] not take for friends and allies infidels [non-Muslims] instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah — unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions” (3:28; other verses referenced by the ulema in support of taqiyya include 2:173, 2:185, 4:29, 16:106, 22:78, 40:28).
Al-Tabari’s (d. 923) famous tafsir (exegesis of the Koran) is a standard and authoritative reference work in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he writes: “If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels’] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them. … Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers — except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them.”
Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir (d. 1373, second in authority only to Tabari) writes, “Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels’] evil may protect himself through outward show.” As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad’s close companion, Abu Darda, who said, “Let us smile to the face of some people [non-Muslims] while our hearts curse them”; another companion, al-Hassan, said, “Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity].”
Other prominent ulema, such as al-Qurtubi, al-Razi, and al-Arabi, have extended taqiyya to cover deeds. In other words, Muslims can behave like infidels — including by bowing down and worshiping idols and crosses, offering false testimony, even exposing fellow Muslims’ weaknesses to the infidel enemy — anything short of actually killing a Muslim.
Is this why the Muslim American sergeant Hasan Akbar attacked and killed his fellow servicemen in Iraq in 2003? Had his pretense of loyalty finally come up against a wall when he realized Muslims might die at his hands? He had written in his diary: “I may not have killed any Muslims, but being in the army is the same thing. I may have to make a choice very soon on who to kill.”
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