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Here is a FRmail, posted with permission:

**Birth Certificate APPLICATION WAS NOT LODGED BY MADELYN DUNHAM.

She would NOT misspell her own name.

Note carefully:

When do such misspellings happen?

STREET - someone who is not a Hawaiian resident...but knows how to use a typewriter.

MADELYN...MADLYN! you got to be kidding. Who ever wrote that must have been TOLD what her name was. IT’S A CLASSIC PHONETIC TRANSCRIPTION ERROR.

same with ERICSON FOR ERICKSON.

Now who could that apply to?

Someone who took the application away, typed it up, filled in the signatures, (all of them by the same hand)

And took it back to lodge where-ever such applications go,

WHERE THEY then FILED IT. BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PROOF OF BIRTH.**

See:

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Another FRmail, posted with permission:

**So the sequence of events gives the lie to the announcements being automatically generated - ever since we saw that zero application and the way it was filled in, we could see that a relative or parent could complete the application and present it - to have the birth registered.

The process (at least in 1961) was the lodgement of an application completed by relative or parent, take it to the registration branch, and obtain a certified birth certificate.

But you can’t get one of those, unless you have something from the hospital to prove the child was ACTUALLY BORN.

Then announce it the birth in the local papers. In the case of Nordyke, they did that about two weeks after the birth. And we can understand why. It had to do with the health of the children. No one would announce the birth of twins in a newspaper if it looked as if one of them might not make it.

But in 1961 when zero was born (lord knows where) all they wanted to achieve is a RECORD OF THE BIRTH.

AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE PAPER.

They got what they wanted. But what they never got, and what he cannot get now, IS A PROPER CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

All he has been able to get is an abstract of the original APPLICATION.**

[Many thanks to those who provided this information.]