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To: wintertime
Wintertime, why are you the only respondent who seems to have read our Constitution? I understand more each day why Beck, Levin, Limbaugh, even O’Reilly, won't take on this issue. Only one Freeper in this thread appears to take the Constitution seriously enough to try to understand what natural born citizen means. It is easier to be indignant than to read.

A natural born citizen is “...born in the country of parents who are its citizens.” That is the definition repeated in The Venus, 12 U.S. 253 by chief justice John Marshall in 1814, and repeated in half a dozen other cases. Barack has told us time after time that he was born a dual-citizen. His father was British as Kenya was part of the Commonwealth in 1961, and thus so was Barry. Why? Because he, Barack Obama II told us so. Dual citizens cannot have sole allegiance to one nation. They are not natural born citizens. Barack knows that. But he'll take and redistribute our property if we let him. If we don't care, he certainly doesn't.

If people understood why that provision, which has never been extended or modified, was inserted into the Constitution, they would not be guessing about irrelevancies -grades, grandma, passports, etc. Beck's writers, Limbaugh, Levin, probably know from experience that their audience has so little understanding of our history as to be easily distracted by clever left-wing operatives. If we don't help people understand why we require a natural born citizen as commander in chief, to whom shall we designate the power to decide which provisions of The Constitution count and which don't. They have chosen for us, and the media are their mouthpiece.

Read the Kerchner/Apuzzo blog. It is not sensational. It is about the law and the Constitution. Apuzzo has distilled more of the philosophy upon which our founders depended when constructing our Constitution than anyone I've read, though Donofrio has done lots of excellent work, including the discovery that Chester Arthur was a usurper who concealed his records, burning them just before his death, to hide the fact that his father did not become a U.S. citizen until Chester was 14.

Read The Venus, a case brought about in part, because the British, leading to the War of 1812, were conscripting men from U.S. flagged ships because they were born, in the U.S. of British Citizen parents, like Obama. The whole case is about the privileges and protections of citizenship. There are hundreds of books and papers addressing citizenship because it is at the foundation of what a nation is - the contract specifying the benefits of belonging to and supporting a political system.

134 posted on 01/04/2010 6:32:47 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Spaulding
I am more than exasperated with Rush, Beck, Hannity, Ingram, levine..etc....I AM DISGUSTED!

All of them have the collective gonads the size of a dust mite.

136 posted on 01/04/2010 6:40:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Mears

bfl


140 posted on 01/04/2010 7:06:32 PM PST by Mears
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To: Spaulding; LucyT
“If people understood why that provision, which has never been extended or modified, was inserted into the Constitution, they would not be guessing about irrelevancies -grades, grandma, passports, etc. Beck's writers, Limbaugh, Levin, probably know from experience that their audience has so little understanding of our history as to be easily distracted by clever left-wing operatives.”

Note that over on FOX Business Network (FBN) Neil Cavuto’s Show in the evening (not his FNC PM show)has twice had as a quest the Chrysler dealer who is the lead plaintiff in D’Onofrio’s challenge to the screwing the the dealers in the bankruptcy.

If Cavuto, who is a FOX VP doesn't know that D’Onofrio is planning a quo warranto challenge to Obama’s eligibility to ruin Chrysler as POTUS, Cavuto is a fool!

This could be a great segway to the natural born citizen/BC issues for FOX family of network/publications. They could be planning to use the business network to cover D’Onofrio’s quo warranto filing in the DC Circuit (any day now?) as a legitimate business story actively in the DC Circuit.p>

Keep that popcorn handy!

145 posted on 01/04/2010 10:08:35 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Spaulding
To your point about the FOX general audience being likely to get totally confused and misled by Obots claiming that there is “no reason for Obama to release his HI vital records” (Ha!) I expect that in his quo warranto filing, Leo D’Onofrio will display his excellent skills in making the complex comprehensible in a legally near-bullet-proof way.

My hope is that the FOX attorneys (both behind the scenes and on-air like Coulter) will give the green light to Beck, Hannity and even O’Reilly to discuss the quo warranto eligibillty issue if they are sufficiently impressed by what I expect will be D’Onofrio’s clear logic on the issue.

D’Onofrio was born for this moment and he will begin by lacerating the ludicrous Indiana Appeals decision claiming that the Wong Kim Ark decision made Wong a natural born citizen, so Obama is one too!

I expect that as part of the quo warranto, D’Onofrio will request the “best evidence” original HI vital records for Obama while declaring that he fully “believes that Obama was born in HI”.

146 posted on 01/04/2010 10:23:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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