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To: Star Traveler
Is the war on terror being used as a smokescreen to Islamify the West?

Yeah, for those who want to "Islamify" the West... yes, it's a smokescreen. I say that (for those who intend that) because the Muslim clerics and other spokesmen in the Islamic countries make that very clear. They intend to use immigration (both legal and illegal) to infiltrate the West.

That does not explain the behavior of non-Muslim leaders of the West. People like to say "never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" but there are limits.

I also think that Islam should be outlawed in this country because it's a form or government, and not a religion.

You could say the same thing about any religion that is strong. Bringing Muslims to the West divides the people to strengthen the gathering tyranny. Cultural marxists make an ally of Islam to drive out Christianity.

191 posted on 01/04/2010 10:03:20 AM PST by Kells
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To: Kells
You were saying ...

That does not explain the behavior of non-Muslim leaders of the West. People like to say "never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity" but there are limits.

Well, when you see it also in the Bush Administration, with President Bush pushing wide-open borders along with a lot of others... it does go to show you it's not limited to just the liberal side of the fence.

How to explain it... I don't know exactly, except that there are a whole heck of a lot of politicians who are for wide-open borders it seems. That's not an explanation of it, but merely saying what appears to be true and that it's not limited to the other side of the political fence.


You could say the same thing about any religion that is strong.

There are other idealogies which are not religions, but they act as if they are. They just don't say it. I'm not talking about them. They are political movements and they are recognized as political movements, but they are "religious" in their practice of it. Again, that's not what I'm talking about -- not that you were necessarily saying this, but I had to get that out of the way.

Then, when I do look at what is recognized as "religions" around the world -- I simply don't find any that I'm aware of (or maybe they're not really significant in the grand scheme of things...) -- which makes the "religion" part of the government -- right here and right now -- from the followers themselves. This is key and critical to understanding this.

I say that, because in Christianity, there is a one-world government coming, but it is only to be set up by the hand of the Messiah of Israel and it's only He who will be doing the fighting and He is the one who will literally slaughter all the people in the world who have refused to come under His world-wide authority and Kingship over the entire world.

So, I'm distinguishing a future "Kingdom" not from the people or followers of a religion -- but from the founder of the religion, Himself, coming back and forcibly setting up the Kingdom over all the nations.

That is in Christianity -- but as I say, not as part of what the followers are supposed to do.

And with any other religion, I'm just not aware of another one, in which the followers are to violently overthrow other governments and take over the entire world -- and they are not good adherents to the religion unless they do that.

And lastly, another big factor in this -- is that with all the other religions (for the most part, I would say), they all recognize "earthly authority" and governments and they practice their religion alongside of the existing government that they are under. They are not about overthrowing it, unless, of course, you're talking about overthrowing it as a political movement and for throwing off oppression -- politically speaking. That does exist, politically -- but not as part of the religious dogmas of that particular religion.

With Islam, they don't recognize other earthly authorities -- but -- for just a limited amount of time, while their adherents are not in a good enough position to overthrow that authority. When they do get into a good and solid position to try and overthrow that government -- they will. They do not recognize any other "governing authority" over them, except where they are forced to recognize it.

There is no difference in the Muslim's mind of a "religion" and a "government". To them, there is no difference and they don't even have the "thought processes" (culturally speaking) to even "recognize" a government as something separate from their religion. It's simply "not valid" and it's a government that must be overthrown, if it is not Islam.

192 posted on 01/04/2010 10:49:42 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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