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Tennessee gun in park incident reveals a scarier danger
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 26 December, 2009 | David Codrea

Posted on 12/28/2009 3:51:18 AM PST by marktwain

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To: CharlesWayneCT

Painting the tip of a weapon orange as an attempt to make someone believe it was a toy, in effect, conceals the weapon. If a person does not have a concealed weapon permit this could be illegal.


41 posted on 12/28/2009 5:41:08 AM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: babygene

Would a camo or OD green job on it do that as well?


42 posted on 12/28/2009 5:44:08 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Scotsman will be Free

From the picture I saw, it looked like an AK-47 rifle without the shoulder stock.


43 posted on 12/28/2009 5:51:32 AM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Tolsti2

“Would a camo or OD green job on it do that as well?”

No. Painting the tip orange obscures the fact that it is a weapon. Painting it some other color - probably does not.


44 posted on 12/28/2009 6:02:01 AM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: marktwain
You also need to realize that Radnor Lake is a state park that is in the middle of Yuppiedom. If the clown was really wanting to prove a point he should have gone to Bicentennial Mall.
45 posted on 12/28/2009 6:02:29 AM PST by sticker
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To: babygene

These are legal. There's plenty of examples of pink guns out there. Am I correct in seeing that we have anti-gunners on FR saying we need to start regulating more?
46 posted on 12/28/2009 6:04:38 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“No, I’m opposed to people painting their real guns to make them look like toys, and parading around a park scaring people needlessly.”

I’m opposed as well, but wouldn’t people be less scared if it looked like a toy? I don’t think your argument works...


47 posted on 12/28/2009 6:07:36 AM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Lion Den Dan
From the article:

The fact remains: We have a right to bear arms. And evidently, Mr. Embody violated no law.

The debate will continue. But out of all of this, here's what I found most scary--another forum discussion, this time on Officer.com. From forum member "stlcopper," self-described as "'Heavy Hand' of the Law":

I just don't understand why the 1st Ranger encountered didn't draw down and put you on your face! That would've been my 1st move and if you so much as sneezed at me while holding that thing, I'd blow your shnit away!!!

For exercising a right and not violating any law...? Do we really think we're safer if this guy, and those like him, are the "Only Ones" bearing arms?

I sometimes wonder if it isn't the police community who really want to ban guns. They seem to want law abiding citizens to never resist or protect themselves, just call 911.

48 posted on 12/28/2009 6:08:01 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: driftdiver
This guy is a loon and harming the cause.

And perhaps on purpose!

49 posted on 12/28/2009 6:15:30 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Tolsti2

Theres a gun in that pic?

Of course there are anti-gunners on FR, just as there are liberals posing as pro gun rights people.

Defending the behavior of this clown is not a positive thing. What he’s doing endangers himself and others. It also gives the anti’s a great example to use in their propaganda. For people sitting on the fence they see this and consider it irresponsible.

Guns are not toys and should never be treated as such.


50 posted on 12/28/2009 6:16:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: babygene

“I’m opposed as well, but wouldn’t people be less scared if it looked like a toy?”

He’s trying to make it look like a toy but that attempt fails. People are scared because they see an armed man acting irrationally. And rightly so.


51 posted on 12/28/2009 6:18:27 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

While I agree in principle, I also think that as long as he didn’t threaten or harm anyone specifically it’s not a problem how he painted his gun.

I’ve heard stories of people flipping over open carry in places where it’s legal enough.


52 posted on 12/28/2009 6:20:47 AM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

If he was carrying in a holster he would get a lot more support from the pro gun rights crowd.

If he didn’t paint the tip orange he would get more support.

If he didn’t intentionally choose a firearm like this he would get more support.

As it is he’s a dangerous clown.


53 posted on 12/28/2009 6:20:51 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tolsti2

Please read my post 53.


54 posted on 12/28/2009 6:21:56 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: babygene

Having to get a concealed weapon perment is an infringement.


55 posted on 12/28/2009 6:23:14 AM PST by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: Tolsti2
Am I correct in seeing that we have anti-gunners on FR saying we need to start regulating more?

Yes! If we are all to be equal under the law then no one should have a gun or we should all have guns. I vote the latter

:-)

56 posted on 12/28/2009 6:24:37 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: ravenwolf

That I agree with, but people like this hurt that cause.


57 posted on 12/28/2009 6:24:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

“As it is he’s a dangerous clown.”

Dangerous? To whom? Just because you don’t like what someone does, it does not constitute a danger.

American’s do not deserve freedom. They are terrified of it.

Hank


58 posted on 12/28/2009 6:28:36 AM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Hank Kerchief

‘Dangerous? To whom? Just because you don’t like what someone does, it does not constitute a danger.”

To himself and those around him. To use the previous posters example someone sitting in a room breaking wind is rude but not necessarily dangerous. Someone armed and acting irrationally is dangerous. There are plenty of ways to support open carry without doing stuff like this.

‘American’s do not deserve freedom. They are terrified of it.”

You seem to have great disdain for America. I love America and won’t give up on it.


59 posted on 12/28/2009 6:31:06 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
If a person holding a weapon, (whether it has an orange tip on it or not) refuses commands, then deadly force would not only be permitted, but would be expected.

This has gotten to be the case though cops are still bound by laws that only allow use of deadly physical force to protect the officer's life and/or the public safety. Is the officer or the in danger when the officer issues an unlawful command which is not obeyed? State laws differ on self defens against rogue cops but private citizens have been found innocent through a self defense claim. When an officer makes a public threat to blow someone away, his subsequent actions are surely open to question. Depending upon the circumstances, I personally might choose to make my own case for self defense.

60 posted on 12/28/2009 6:41:14 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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