These are legal. There's plenty of examples of pink guns out there. Am I correct in seeing that we have anti-gunners on FR saying we need to start regulating more?
Posted on 12/28/2009 3:51:18 AM PST by marktwain
The sight of a man openly carrying a firearm in a Nashville-area park has scared some people, resulting in a law enforcement response. From the Associated Press:
A man carrying an AK-47-style semiautomatic pistol was detained at Radnor Lake State Park on Sunday after startled hikers complained to park rangers.
Some would consider that a scary-looking gun. Some would consider coloring the muzzle tip orange so it looks like an Airsoft gun scary. And some would consider gun owner Leonard Embody's choice of apparel, "a camouflage jacket, military boots and a black skull cap" scary.
That's how hiker Ellen Thomas described her encounter with Embody. And even Minneapolis Gun Rights Examiner and Open Carry.org co-founder John Pierce, who is quoted in this story, concedes appearances can be problematic.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Painting the tip of a weapon orange as an attempt to make someone believe it was a toy, in effect, conceals the weapon. If a person does not have a concealed weapon permit this could be illegal.
Would a camo or OD green job on it do that as well?
From the picture I saw, it looked like an AK-47 rifle without the shoulder stock.
“Would a camo or OD green job on it do that as well?”
No. Painting the tip orange obscures the fact that it is a weapon. Painting it some other color - probably does not.
“No, I’m opposed to people painting their real guns to make them look like toys, and parading around a park scaring people needlessly.”
I’m opposed as well, but wouldn’t people be less scared if it looked like a toy? I don’t think your argument works...
The fact remains: We have a right to bear arms. And evidently, Mr. Embody violated no law.
The debate will continue. But out of all of this, here's what I found most scary--another forum discussion, this time on Officer.com. From forum member "stlcopper," self-described as "'Heavy Hand' of the Law":
I just don't understand why the 1st Ranger encountered didn't draw down and put you on your face! That would've been my 1st move and if you so much as sneezed at me while holding that thing, I'd blow your shnit away!!!
For exercising a right and not violating any law...? Do we really think we're safer if this guy, and those like him, are the "Only Ones" bearing arms?
I sometimes wonder if it isn't the police community who really want to ban guns. They seem to want law abiding citizens to never resist or protect themselves, just call 911.
And perhaps on purpose!
Theres a gun in that pic?
Of course there are anti-gunners on FR, just as there are liberals posing as pro gun rights people.
Defending the behavior of this clown is not a positive thing. What he’s doing endangers himself and others. It also gives the anti’s a great example to use in their propaganda. For people sitting on the fence they see this and consider it irresponsible.
Guns are not toys and should never be treated as such.
“I’m opposed as well, but wouldn’t people be less scared if it looked like a toy?”
He’s trying to make it look like a toy but that attempt fails. People are scared because they see an armed man acting irrationally. And rightly so.
While I agree in principle, I also think that as long as he didn’t threaten or harm anyone specifically it’s not a problem how he painted his gun.
I’ve heard stories of people flipping over open carry in places where it’s legal enough.
If he was carrying in a holster he would get a lot more support from the pro gun rights crowd.
If he didn’t paint the tip orange he would get more support.
If he didn’t intentionally choose a firearm like this he would get more support.
As it is he’s a dangerous clown.
Please read my post 53.
Having to get a concealed weapon perment is an infringement.
Yes! If we are all to be equal under the law then no one should have a gun or we should all have guns. I vote the latter
:-)
That I agree with, but people like this hurt that cause.
“As it is he’s a dangerous clown.”
Dangerous? To whom? Just because you don’t like what someone does, it does not constitute a danger.
American’s do not deserve freedom. They are terrified of it.
Hank
‘Dangerous? To whom? Just because you don’t like what someone does, it does not constitute a danger.”
To himself and those around him. To use the previous posters example someone sitting in a room breaking wind is rude but not necessarily dangerous. Someone armed and acting irrationally is dangerous. There are plenty of ways to support open carry without doing stuff like this.
‘American’s do not deserve freedom. They are terrified of it.”
You seem to have great disdain for America. I love America and won’t give up on it.
This has gotten to be the case though cops are still bound by laws that only allow use of deadly physical force to protect the officer's life and/or the public safety. Is the officer or the in danger when the officer issues an unlawful command which is not obeyed? State laws differ on self defens against rogue cops but private citizens have been found innocent through a self defense claim. When an officer makes a public threat to blow someone away, his subsequent actions are surely open to question. Depending upon the circumstances, I personally might choose to make my own case for self defense.
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