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To: rhema

Here is the Stupak “fly in the punchbowl”: “...or when the life of the mother is in danger.” Who is going to decide that? An abortionist. And who is going to argue with it? No one. This bill stinks, and the Senate Democrats are a bunch of liars. And the Democrats - even Stupak - will fold.

So here is what typically happens: we, the people, put up a fuss because we do not like a bill. Congress ignores us, passes the bill, then we shut up, accept the “inevitable,” become obedient sheep, and then vote in the same dimwits. It is our fault that we let Congress get away with this stuff. So what do we do? We continue to apply pressure even after this bill passes - emails, town halls, phone calls, faxes, and visits to local offices between now and the election. Keep this on the front pages, in the blogs, on the radio, on the TV shows. We even run for elected office so we can get decent, honest people in those positions.

We also push for the items specified at http://pushbackuntil.com/Mandates.htm. These are just common sense ideas that will save our beloved country for future generations.

In addition, be in D.C. for a massive protest on the day of the State of the Union Address (anyone know the date???). We need to ruin their “party” - no more status quo, no more business as usual - WE HAVE A COUNTRY TO SAVE! Also be there on 4/15. We will have to have major protests in D.C. several times a year. We are not trying to awaken Congress - we are trying to awaken the American people! And it is working. But we have to keep the pressure on for the next five or ten years. Otherwise, nothing will change.

So...BE IN D.C.!


10 posted on 12/24/2009 9:34:19 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable, and unambiguous clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR
We will have to have major protests in D.C. several times a year.

I'll be there on 4/15.

BUT, unless my fellow protesters are ready and willing to get (very) belligerent and confrontational , it's the last time for me.

We are witnessing a virtual coup, a deliberate & calculated plan to enslave us into serfdom forever. We do not have time to apply the type of pressure you are describing. Our side must escalate this fast and hard. Again, this is unlike any "legislation" in our history. It is a takeover, plain and simple.

30 posted on 12/24/2009 10:08:44 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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To: DennisR

Please be accurate in your “fly in the punchbowl” accusation.

The NORMAL language for abortion rights is to guard the mother’s HEALTH - which includes her “mental health” - which naturally includes “I didn’t want the baby”.

The exception for the mother’s LIFE is there to allow for the mother’s life to be saved when there is a choice between the mom or the baby - where one lives and one dies.

Stupak’s amendment is a very strongly worded anti-abortion measure, by legalese standards - which are the only standards that make sense to apply in this situation.


58 posted on 12/24/2009 8:19:14 PM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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