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Immigration reform bill introduced in Congress
SV Mercury News ^ | December 15, 2009 | Ken McLaughlin

Posted on 12/24/2009 6:39:02 AM PST by americanophile

-snip- For the first time in two years, a measure billed as "comprehensive immigration reform" has been introduced in Congress.

The bill — HR 4321 — filed Tuesday by Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., incorporates most of the provisions of a measure introduced in June by Rep. Mike Honda, D-Campbell.

At last count Tuesday night, it had 89 co-sponsors.

Honda's bill focused on legal immigration issues such as eliminating visa backlogs and giving green-card holders the same rights as citizens to bring their spouses and children to the U.S. But Gutierrez's bill is much more sweeping. It includes a provision that would allow the country's 12 million illegal immigrants to legalize by paying a $500 fine, learning English and passing a criminal-background check.

It would also require employers to check a federal database to verify the immigration status of job applicants.

In 2007, the last time Congress grappled with the issue, a bipartisan Senate bill sponsored by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and the late Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., failed when Republicans blocked votes over the amnesty issue.

But Democrats think immigration reform has a better shot this time around.

"Now, we have the White House," Honda said Tuesday. "And now we have leadership in both houses that want to see it happen."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, says she will let the Senate take up the issue first after Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., files his version of the immigration reform bill after the holiday break.

Groups that favor decreased immigration were quick to pounce on the legislation.

"It certainly has everything in there for every special-interest group — from amnesty for illegal aliens at the bargain-basement price of 500 bucks, to increased family-based immigration, to increased employment-based immigration," said Ira Mehlman

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bohica; cirasap; congress; immigrantlist; immigration; importingdemvotes
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In case you missed it. Here we go again.
1 posted on 12/24/2009 6:39:04 AM PST by americanophile
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Since they are not listening to the people, the next thing will be pushing the cap and trade bill. Obama wants all this done before the 2010 elections. With clauses in the bills that prevent future congresses from changing them, Obama, Reid and Pelosi don't care if they lose some seats. At least they will have the bills they want to build on in the future, even if they become the minority. They will get enough of the RINO’s to go along with them.

I am so sick of these people, I just hope the Republicans have the backbone to fight all these future bills until the elections.

2 posted on 12/24/2009 6:44:23 AM PST by bobsunshine
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To: americanophile

So now we use this in conjunction with the healthcare bill. Let the American people now that if millions of illegals are granted amnesty they will qualify for healthcare which the American taxpayer will be paying for. They will be taking more jobs that Americans are now taking to feed their families. Obama and the rats are going to have one hell of a fight on their hands. We need to go after this administration with everything we’ve got. Drive his numbers into the ground.


3 posted on 12/24/2009 6:47:40 AM PST by jersey117
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To: bobsunshine

Thank goodness the “clauses that prevent future Congresses from changing them” aren’t worth the paper they are printed on. Future Congresses will have the same authority to change them as the current Congress has to enact them.


4 posted on 12/24/2009 6:49:22 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: jersey117

When enough american citizens have nothing left to lose then there will be a diiferent kind of “change” than the sort the great zero forsaw.


5 posted on 12/24/2009 6:57:27 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: americanophile

The Democrats are on a suicide mission.


6 posted on 12/24/2009 7:04:22 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: americanophile

I read until I got to “twelve million”. How stupid do they think we are.


7 posted on 12/24/2009 7:04:42 AM PST by Sefton (Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Trotskism, Maoism, Obamaism)
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To: americanophile
After they pass the the Healthcare abomination bill...they will need votes for reelection....and they know where to get them....

Hope and Change was not limited to the legal population.....they intend to mold the American population into the serfs we should be....

Our nation is on the edge....and the left intends on pushing it over into the abyss....doesn't matter where it ends up....just so long as they keep power...
8 posted on 12/24/2009 7:04:58 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: jersey117

Absolutely, we need to mount a huge offense NOW! Get those Republicans on-board before it’s too late.


9 posted on 12/24/2009 7:05:29 AM PST by Kenny
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To: jersey117

And we need to get the word out re: their real motives. They don’t care about these people (illegals) they’re trying to ensure their re-election after they turned against the American people with their healthcare.


10 posted on 12/24/2009 7:09:11 AM PST by Kenny
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To: americanophile

Lt. Col. Allen West put it in one word the other day:

“bayonets!”


11 posted on 12/24/2009 7:20:43 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


12 posted on 12/24/2009 7:24:34 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: La Lydia

I wish I was as optimistic as you. If that was the case (”not worth the paper they are printed on”), then that section would be illegal. Until someone challenges it in court and a ruling is made, be very aware of what they are capable of - future congresses will not be able to change the law until it is challenged.


13 posted on 12/24/2009 7:29:58 AM PST by bobsunshine
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To: bobsunshine

Think about it. Let’s imagine that, next year, the Republicans take over both houses of Congress. (I’m not saying that will happen, I’m just saying, suppose they do.) They pass legislation containing language that reverses the provisions that were “permanent.” Who or what is going to do anything about that? Congress can change any law it wants, and doesn’t have wait for a court challenge to do so. Separation of powers, remember? A current Congress cannot tie the hands of a future Congress.


14 posted on 12/24/2009 7:37:04 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: bobsunshine
With clauses in the bills that prevent future congresses from changing them

Unlawful and unconstitutional. Unless we get one more Sotomayor on SCOTUS. Then we go to Hitlerville.

15 posted on 12/24/2009 7:55:54 AM PST by pabianice
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To: jersey117

In a sad, perverse way, it doesn’t really matter how many illegals are added to the “free” health care bandwagon.

The so called health bill will be the nail in coffin of the teetering economy. If we crash as hard as it is beginning to look like we will, no one is getting squat.

However, these 12 million (more lie 15-18 million) illegals are going to be a lot less constrained by civil niceties when it comes to getting what they need in a collapse than most Americans. Libs without weapons are going to be the first victims.


16 posted on 12/24/2009 7:59:40 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Sefton

Yeah, more like 36 million.

“Now we have the White House,” as congress critter Honda said. Hell, two years ago, George W. Bush was president and he was 100% on board with amnesty. Anyone remember his “See you at the signing” comment?

Healthcare takeover, cap ‘n tax, amnesty....looks like the democrats WANT a revolution!


17 posted on 12/24/2009 8:08:06 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan.....a Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: americanophile
Hereafter referred to as The WetbAct of 2009...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

18 posted on 12/24/2009 8:14:51 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: La Lydia
Think about it. Let’s imagine that, next year, the Republicans take over both houses of Congress. (I’m not saying that will happen, I’m just saying, suppose they do.) They pass legislation containing language that reverses the provisions that were “permanent.” Who or what is going to do anything about that? Congress can change any law it wants, and doesn’t have wait for a court challenge to do so. Separation of powers, remember? A current Congress cannot tie the hands of a future Congress.

We can retake the House which will give us some leverage.

And add some Senators, so we can filibuster.

19 posted on 12/24/2009 8:16:41 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: americanophile
"Now, we have the White House," Honda said Tuesday. "And now we have leadership in both houses that want to see it happen."

The same was true the last time around under GW.
20 posted on 12/24/2009 8:41:16 AM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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