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To: Mannaggia l'America
"I would be suprised if it did. The 'rats have more leeway in losing votes in the House than they do in the Senate."

They only have a leeway of 3 in the House. Stupak is claiming that he has 11 or 12 that are staying with him and not voting for it if there is not more restrictive language put in. If this were not true, I don't think they would even go to conference and risk screwing this bill up. The House would just vote on the Senate's bill. If they had the votes on it right now, I think they would vote up or down on it when they reconvened in January. I think they're going to change the abortion provision and make it much closer to the Stupak amendment, but they will and it will pass.
37 posted on 12/23/2009 7:21:26 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Stupak is claiming that he has 11 or 12 that are staying with him and not voting for it if there is not more restrictive language put in.

This is not new, and comes as no surprise to the Dem leadership, as Stupak has been saying repeatedly, from early on, that he has the votes in the Democratic pro-life caucus to kill this bill if it comes back from conference without what was formerly known as the Hyde language. They have been lying about federal money to pay for death from the very beginning, knowing full well that the Capps amendment securing payment for abortion was adopted in committee whereas Stupak's amendment, Hyde, was not allowed to be brought up for vote, nor was it allowed for vote in the full House. It was only when that last House vote was taken, Stupak and his pro-life colleagues necessary for passage to allow the bill to pass Constitutional muster (all bills raising revenue must originate in the House) that they relented and allowed his amendment on the Floor.

It comes down to the final conference language -- if Stupak and his colleagues are not satisfied with their specific denial language, they will kill the bill. If Stupak is satisfied, the pro-death Dems will kill the bill. If the public option language is not included in the final conference report, the Progressives and way-left Dems will kill the bill. All these factions must be satisfied and they are are all opposing each other.

40 posted on 12/23/2009 9:18:36 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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