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To: adm5
Something tells me you're not being truthful. I'd rather hear what you think of the JBS, but I'll get the ball rolling.

The definition of kooks is, "one whose ideas or actions are eccentric, fantastic, or insane : screwball".

Since its inception the John Birch Society has been a fringe extremist organization. Historically, the JBS is a group of conspiracy paranoiacs. The JBS founder, Robert Welch, called President Eisenhower a communist stooge. That prompted Bill Buckley and Russell Kirk to renounce the JBS. Even Goldwater eventually backed away from the JBS. Btw, JBS even opposed Reagan's campaigns for Governor and President.

Frankly, I see no difference between the JBS and other fringe extremist groups promoting minanarchy, anarchy, libertarianism, paleolibertarianism, southern confederate rebel secessionism, 150 year old Dixiecrat-Slavocrat agenda, anti war, anti Semitic agendas. JBS has ties to some of todays best known fringe wackos like Ron Paul, Thomas DiLorenzo and Lew Rockwell. Along with the late and infamous Reagan hater, Murry Rothbard.

What say you?

200 posted on 12/21/2009 10:01:05 PM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
Something tells me you're not being truthful. I'd rather hear what you think of the JBS, but I'll get the ball rolling. The definition of kooks is, "one whose ideas or actions are eccentric, fantastic, or insane : screwball". Since its inception the John Birch Society has been a fringe extremist organization. Historically, the JBS is a group of conspiracy paranoiacs. The JBS founder, Robert Welch, called President Eisenhower a communist stooge. That prompted Bill Buckley and Russell Kirk to renounce the JBS. Even Goldwater eventually backed away from the JBS. Btw, JBS even opposed Reagan's campaigns for Governor and President. Frankly, I see no difference between the JBS and other fringe extremist groups promoting minanarchy, anarchy, libertarianism, paleolibertarianism, southern confederate rebel secessionism, 150 year old Dixiecrat-Slavocrat agenda, anti war, anti Semitic agendas. JBS has ties to some of todays best known fringe wackos like Ron Paul, Thomas DiLorenzo and Lew Rockwell. Along with the late and infamous Reagan hater, Murry Rothbard. What say you?

LOL - I really am being truthful. I appreciate your take on JBS, I didn't know any of that information. Especially puzzling on their stand against Conservative Icon, Ronald Reagan.

223 posted on 12/22/2009 9:12:42 AM PST by adm5 (THE COMING TAX REVOLT SHOULD BE THE LAST THING OBAMA & CO. SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT.)
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To: Reagan Man
Historically, the JBS is a group of conspiracy paranoiacs.

Yeah. The JBS has long espoused the idea that there is a plan to institute a global socialist government.

There is, isn't there? World domination is part of the Socialist's Goals.

They have long decried deviation from the original intent of the Constitution, even when that deviation was popular (or the person embracing such action was), citing the eventual hazards including the cumulative and incremental change of our way of life.

For extra credit, cite how the Patriot Act or the War on Drugs has enhanced your civil rights vs. stripped you of your fourth and fifth amendment rights, for starters.

Funny thing, they have been pretty much right on what has played out so far.

People paying attention to the actions of our Government, opposing those actions have slowed the Marxist juggernaut, but failed to stop it entirely because of the compromises made on both sides of the aisle, compromises which are devoid of Constitutional basis.

We have reached the point where other predictions (Global de facto governance via the UN), once inconceiveable, have entered the realm of possibility (Copenhagen a near miss at instituting such), something we ignore at our peril.

Why is it that the first people to see something are decried as "Kooks"?

Eternal vigillance means just that, and it is the price of Liberty. To do less than jealously guard all our liberties is how we have ended up with the mess we are in.

239 posted on 12/22/2009 2:57:34 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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