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1 posted on 12/21/2009 10:40:13 AM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori

ruh roh..........


2 posted on 12/21/2009 10:44:21 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: FromLori
Even if you get physical possession of the gold, watch out.

Tungsten Alloy for Gold Substitution

4 posted on 12/21/2009 10:45:47 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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How Much Gold Has Been Sold That Doesn’t Exist? — Part 2

On October 16, 2009 I wrote “HOW MUCH GOLD HAS BEEN SOLD THAT DOESN’T EXIST?” which you can find here. This article looked at how much gold the London OTC market should be holding in order to be able to trade 2,134 mt each and every day. The conclusion was that the exchange should have at least 64,000 mt. From GFMS data it can be deduced that the London OTC market only has a maximum of 15,000 mt because this is the estimated total existing London Good Delivery (LGD) bars in the world. This means that there are at least 49,000 mt of ‘imaginary” gold that have been sold that do not exist. This scam is unlikely to be discovered unless the owners of the “imaginary” gold actually request delivery. The bad news for the Gold Cartel is that this is beginning to happen.

I have written this follow up after some e-mail exchanges with some readers and with Bill Murphy. I think additional text may add some clarity to the original article.

First of all I would like to emphasize that there are various reports of difficulty meeting deliveries in London. This has been described as a “lack of liquidity”. If there is a “lack of liquidity” in the London gold market then there is fraud. There is no other explanation possible. If the OTC only traded gold that was in the vaults on a 100% reserve ratio there could never be a lack of liquidity. Recent information indicates there is a lack of liquidity so there is a fraud. Period. …now all we are trying to do is to estimate the scale of it.

Gold has been “blamed” for not keeping up with inflation. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. This is basic economics. The relative supply and demand of gold with respect to US dollars determines its price. Inflation is a monetary phenomenon. If the supply of money is increased without increasing the supply of goods the result will be an increase in the price of goods. If the money supply is doubled and the supply of goods is doubled there will be no change in the price of goods.

In the last 14 years the supply of dollars has increased from $4 Trillion to $15 Trillion (+275%) while the gold price has risen from $400 in 1995 to $1000 in 2009 (+150%). How could this happen? The demand for gold must have gone down. Wrong! It has gone up. So supply must have gone up. Wrong! Mine supply has been decreasing. There has to be an alternative MASSIVE supply of gold to make the price rise slower than the influx of dollars. Enter the sale of “imaginary” or “paper” gold that makes up the imbalance. In 1995 the world stock of real gold metal was 140,000 tonnes for 4T$ of money stock. Let’s assume the amount of imaginary gold was small at that time as this was before Rubin’s strong dollar policy. If the price of gold had remained at $400 the gold stock would have to match the rise in the dollar stock (it grew 3.75 times) and be 525,000 tonnes (140,000 x 3.75). But the price didn’t stay static it went up 150% (an increase of 2.5 times) so the gold stock should be 140,000 x 3.75/2.5 = 210,000 tonnes. The gold stock is actually 160,000 tonnes. The difference must be imaginary gold = 210,000 - 160,000 = 50,000 tonnes.

That is quite astonishing because this is almost EXACTLY the same number as calculated in my previous article. However, in my previous article I calculated it by using the GLD ETF trading characteristics to determine what the daily trade volume to inventory ratio should be for unallocated gold. When the GLD trading characteristics are applied to the OTC daily trading volume it gives an implied minimum inventory stock level of 64,000 tonnes. Given that the actual inventory can not be more than 15,000 tonnes this tells us that 49,000 tonnes of imaginary gold has been sold. That is to say “unallocated gold”…but it’s not just “unallocated” it is also non-existent! This is quite amazing that this in depth analysis of the OTC market gives almost the same result as a back-of-the-envelope calculation of money supply.

This lends credibility to at least the ball-park level of our estimate. It means that about 50,000 t of gold has been sold that is in excess of actual real stocks. This does not include all the replicated look-alike scams of pool accounts, gold certificates, unallocated brokerage sales, ETF etc which might be another 10,000t. So the order of magnitude of the net short position of gold in the world is 60,000 tonnes. This is against a total possible claimed gold supply of 30,000t from all Central banks which GATA believes is now less than 15,000t. Of the 15,000t perhaps, at a maximum, the Central Banks would be willing to part with only 7,500t.

So there is imaginary gold sold of 60,000t and only at an absolute maximum 7,500t that can be mobilized to meet it. Of course, when the squeeze comes the demand from fresh buying is going to sky rocket to pile even more misery on to the Gold Cartel.

I don’t think it is melodramatic to say this is likely to be the biggest short squeeze ever in history. What price will be needed to bring this into equilibrium? I don’t know; but it will have to have a lot more zeroes on it than $1000/oz has!

Anyone who suggests gold is in a bubble at $1000/oz does not have a clue what he is talking about!

If 60,000t of “imaginary” gold has been sold in a market that has a total stock of 160,000t there is no question of doubt the gold price has been suppressed as a consequence, as long stated by GATA. There is no further debate required on the subject. If the OTC market has 100% reserve ratio let them publicly state it under oath and agree to an audit. Let them also explain how recent transactions could not be met without Central Bank leasing and why cash settlement with generous premiums was offered instead of physical gold delivery.

As Warren Buffett famously said, “When the tide goes out you get to see who was swimming naked!” The tide is going out on the Gold Cartel.


5 posted on 12/21/2009 10:45:57 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Probably the same gold getting sold over and over, like the Brooklyn Bridge.


6 posted on 12/21/2009 10:46:49 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: FromLori

Cool, there’s less gold...that will make mine worth more.


7 posted on 12/21/2009 10:47:38 AM PST by demsux (Obama: Killing Jobs Not Terrorists)
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To: FromLori

Probably the same amount of stocks that don’t exist.

I’ll get the popcorn.


8 posted on 12/21/2009 10:48:23 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: FromLori
How Much Gold Has Been Sold That Doesn't Exist?

,,,,Kin ya hold the line a minnit? I'm calling my broker Bernie,,,,,,

10 posted on 12/21/2009 10:50:26 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: FromLori

The beauty of owning physical gold is that you KNOW that it exists. The downside is that it can be stolen by low-life thieves. Then again, so can “paper” gold. I guess one upside to owning physical is that if you catch the thief trying to steal it, you can show them your lead collection as well, 230 grains at a time.


11 posted on 12/21/2009 10:50:41 AM PST by meyer (Government health care = national strike.)
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To: FromLori

I don’t know - but his analysis makes sense to me.


13 posted on 12/21/2009 10:50:54 AM PST by bigbob
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To: FromLori

Great find Lori!
This has been something I have long been concerned about. I tell my friends to make sure that they always take physical possession of any precious metals they buy.

“Junk Silver” is also good, especially old US denominated coinage - which has not only a collectible value, but a bullion value and the size is standardized.

Also, there is less likelihood of getting stuck with counterfeit old gold coins than fake bullion. Double Eagles were my favorite years ago before I sold it all to buy my first home!


16 posted on 12/21/2009 10:53:11 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: FromLori

Not again!!!


23 posted on 12/21/2009 10:57:46 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the government spending you demand stupid")
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To: FromLori

Gold bubble now?


25 posted on 12/21/2009 11:01:26 AM PST by americanophile (Merry Christmas!)
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To: FromLori

Thanks. Great post..


29 posted on 12/21/2009 11:15:19 AM PST by Riodacat (Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: FromLori
Selling gold that doesn't exist is only as bad as the banks telling you have physical money in your account that is only 0000’s on a computer screen.
The banks have been doing it for years and no one complains.
If every person went and cleaned out all of their accounts, there wouldn't be enough physical cash to cover what is owed.

By coins or scrap metal only. Or seeds, because at some point when you find out that your 401K “invested” is only dots on someones computer screen.
Move on folks, nothing to see here, Your government and banks have been doing this for a long, long time.

33 posted on 12/21/2009 12:11:58 PM PST by lucky american (Glenn Beck Rocks!!! Sarah Palin Too!!!)
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To: FromLori

Take physical possession of your gold. Solves the problem.


34 posted on 12/21/2009 12:20:42 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: FromLori

The FR goldbugs don’t want to hear this. Sticking their heads in the sand.


38 posted on 12/21/2009 1:25:21 PM PST by packrat35 (Ron Paul is a turd!)
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To: FromLori

A couple of things off the top of my head. A while back I called a local dealer and asked to purchase some bullion. He told me that he would love to but could not get it. As I also understand, the supply of gold includes what is available in the ground and it does not matter if it is dug up or not? I have also read some interesting articles on how governments lease gold and have overstated their reserves.

Good as Gold
http://www.smartmoney.com/investing/stocks/good-as-gold-18980/

The Fractional Reserve Aspects of Gold ETFs
http://www.fgmr.com/fractional-reserve-aspects-of-gold-etfs.html

HOW GOVERNMENT MANIPULATES MONEY AND PRODUCES INFLATION
http://www.quebecoislibre.org/001028-11.htm

Fiat Money Systems
Richard J. Greene
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/greene032104.html

Fiat Money History in the US
http://www.kwaves.com/fiat.htm

Gold Standard
by Michael D. Bordo
http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/GoldStandard.html

What Has Government Done to Our Money? by Murray N. Rothbard
http://mises.org/money.asp

The Big Problem of Small Change
http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj22n1/cj22n1-13.pdf

Uses and Abuses of Gresham’s Law in the History of Money
http://www.columbia.edu/~ram15/grash.html

Barrick shuts hedge book as world gold supply runs out
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/mining/6546579/Barrick-shuts-hedge-book-as-world-gold-supply-runs-out.html

Gold Soars on Falling Supply and Rising Demand
http://seekingalpha.com/article/175987-gold-soars-on-falling-supply-and-rising-demand


40 posted on 12/22/2009 11:46:01 PM PST by PaulAllen (Just say no.)
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