Posted on 12/19/2009 4:34:45 AM PST by BCrago66
Right now, the Senate is voting on a procedural motion to table debate on the Defense bill - which Republicans are hoping to filibuster, in an effort to stall debate on the upcoming Health bill. Because Lieberman didn't show up today, the Republicans just need to stick together on this to prevail - without defections from Collins or Snowe.
(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...
The CBO score won’t change anything because this bill is less expensive than the original Reid bill. However, this is far from over. The abortion language is an absolute abomination. Nelson got nothing in that regard. It funds abortion unless a state legislature “opts out”. The lack of of an official public option and this abortion language is going to be a real problem in the House. Plus, voting this nonsense through late at night on Christmas Even will tick off the American people like nothing in recent memory. We all have to just keep fighting.
Mr. Reid’s amendment includes major restrictions on abortion that were intended to win support for the bill from Mr. Nelson. Under Mr. Reid’s proposal, health insurance plans are not required or forbidden to cover abortion services, but there is a major exemption that would give states power to prohibit abortion coverage in the insurance markets, or exchanges, where most health plans would be sold.
Mr. Reid’s amendment also includes a substantial increase in federal contributions to Nebraska’s costs of providing Medicaid coverage to the power.
When the bill is voted on after conference committee, can it be filibustered, or does it need a simple majority to pass?
I wish I had some Democrat friends or relatives I could boot out into the snow over the holidays...
How did the priest respond? Interested because I share your emotions.
Reid's amendment has finally been unveiled. We expect the CBO Scoring to be released before noon today. It is presently being read in full on CSPAN2.
The amendment runs 383 pages - should be about 9 hours to read.
“Centrist” PRESSER ALERT!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/73055-ben-nelson-gives-health-bill-its-60th-vote
The Nebraska centrist will discuss his position in detail at a 10:00 a.m. press conference at the Capitol.
Never trust a Rat, you people.
I've been watching it. They sure didn't want that amendment read, eh? Hopefully the rat b******s will all be snowed in. It would serve them right.
Inquiry for corruption should be launched!
VOTES ARE NOT FOR SALE to CHICAGO THUGS
It can and will be fillibustered. The conference report can’t be changed, however. It’s a pure up or down vote. The question is what the House will do. Last I heard the conference committee will meet on Friday and the House will want major changes. Then, each chamber votes again. Lots of voting to go before Obamacare becomes law.
Unfortunately, they all are in the Obamanation.
Nelson making statement now.
The utter irony is that two days ago Nelson said his vote was not for sale. FOX is discussing openly that he received concessions for his state. He’s worse than a whore. A whore makes her living in a direct way- no subterfuge.
I hate them, God help me, I hate them. Your priest wouldn’t get too far with me, either ;)
Nelson is live now on FOX.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
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BLAH BLAH BLAH BEN.
Nelson basically endorsed to the proposition that a baby in New York or California has less of right to live than a baby in Alabama or Utah (because in the former States, there’s no barrier for the mother to take federal money to pay the abortionist to do his grisly work.)
That’s a “principled,” “moderate” Democrat for ya.
Hey Nebraska!
Enough with the RATs (Nelson) and RINOs (Hagel)
This should teach you that it's time to get back to some good old country conservatives.
I am usually an optimist. However, on this one I feel a resigned inevitability. Everyone was sure it would not get out of the house - it did. Then everyone was sure they would not get 60 votes in the senate - they did. I have little hope that the congress will not eventually pass this monster.
It saddens me immensely. As a taxpayer, I am already shouldering many peope’s share of the burden, and am sick of it. I already pay >50% of my income in state and local taxes. Next year I will be working harder to pay for college, and that percentage will be increased. If this monster passes, I expect that tax burden to skyrocket.
As a physician, it may mean the end of my career. If a public option passes, I will retire. I will not end my career as a government employee.
Elections do have consequences, and the net leeches in society who already live off me have put the screws to me even further in the last election.
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