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Science: Another Ice Age? (Blast to the past. 1974)
Time ^ | 6/24/1974 | science staff

Posted on 12/18/2009 5:31:12 PM PST by tobyhill

In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada's wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have recently experienced the mildest winters within anyone's recollection.

As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1974; 197406; 19740624; iceage

1 posted on 12/18/2009 5:31:13 PM PST by tobyhill
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“when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades.”


2 posted on 12/18/2009 5:33:34 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
"for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age."

Of course it does, because everyone knows when the Earth warms (allegedly), we can certainly expect to see the planet engulfed in a blanket of ice. Yep, that makes all the sense in the world.

When it gets warm, it's global warming. When it gets bone-crushing cold and snowy, you guessed it, global warming.

3 posted on 12/18/2009 5:35:53 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: tobyhill
Oh, my mistake. It was actually published in 1974. Still, it shows they can't predict the temperature in 30 years, anymore than they can predict rain next Tuesday afternoon.
4 posted on 12/18/2009 5:37:37 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: tobyhill

That jumped out at me as well.


5 posted on 12/18/2009 5:38:55 PM PST by muleskinner ("You know the Germans always make good stuff')
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To: tobyhill

Climate change has become the new religion


6 posted on 12/18/2009 5:39:16 PM PST by celticchik
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To: tobyhill; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; enough_idiocy; ...
 



Beam Me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 12/18/2009 5:52:31 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: tobyhill

“There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth.”

Newsweek, too. All the experts were predicting a new ice age in the mid-1970s:

http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm


8 posted on 12/18/2009 5:59:57 PM PST by Will88
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To: tobyhill

The biggest snow in the Washington, DC area since 1982 is forecasted to welcome Obama back home from the Global Warming Scam Conference.


9 posted on 12/18/2009 6:03:59 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

“There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically...”

I predict that within 1,000 to 3,000 years we will enter another ice age based on previous patterns. One of these days these goof-balls will be correct. Of course then it will be too late.

The previous global cooling alert from the mid 70’s was pretty much at the end of the cool period - and then temps began to rise. Pretty much the same as Global Warming, which peaked in the late 90’s (and that is based on the crummy IPCC data.)


10 posted on 12/18/2009 6:07:10 PM PST by 21twelve (Drive Reality out with a pitchfork if you want , it always comes back.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Maybe they can ~ the fact is the standard weather stations located all over the world have not been maintained very well, nor have they been relocated to better sites as development has occurred.

The consequence is that many of them are next to air conditioners, or at the end of jet runways.

We know that the situation is so bad the measured temperatures for the last 25 to 30 years are probably not adequate for anything, least of all predicting the climate in the distant future.

Once we switched over to total satellite based temperature coverage of the entire globe it was observed that the average global temperature was stable or declining.

Now how did that happen so suddenly?

11 posted on 12/18/2009 6:09:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Will88

Yes, it’s snowing and has been since 14:00hrs. My state went through almost 5 years of drought....then this year we have had more rain and snow then Seattle. There are cycles of weather. Ask any farmer over 50 yrs old.


12 posted on 12/18/2009 6:10:54 PM PST by Gnat Masterson
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To: tobyhill
Actually, considering the pattern of natural temperature variation (cf. temperature estimates form the Vostok ice core sample shown in the figure)

the ice age worry seems a whole lot more cogent than worrying about global warming. Not that the anthropogenic causation theory has any merit in either case.

13 posted on 12/18/2009 7:10:25 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: OldDeckHand
THE CLOUD MYSTERY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKoUwttE0BA

From - of all places - Copenhagen Denmark.

The truth... IMHO.

Just saw all six parts of this documentary. I have only a BS degree in Physics and not an advanced degree. Also have been an astronomy / cosmology enthusiast my entire life (built my first telescope from a kit in the third grade). Having worked in product / applications development, process / manufacturing engineering and formal R&D most of my career, the arguments, investigations, concepts and finally elucidation of the mechanisms of this theory are profoundly powerful and persuasive.

Especially when they go from showing the epochal correlations over 100s of millions of years, to the correlation between cosmic ray flux and ocean temperature over the last 40-50 years (next to last section I believe). AS OPPOSED TO TREE RING DATA which had to be conveniently discarded when over this same recent period since 1961, the ring data DIVERGES from the temperature record --- during this same time frame the cosmic ray flux and the ocean temperature tracks VERY nicely.

This addresses directly your observation about being "off" 30 years ago in what was happening.

When a theory "works" on both 100 million year historical scale AND recent decadal scale (with contemporaneous, measured and NOT inferred data) at the same time - this is POWERFUL evidence that the theory is robust and correct. The power of H2O and cloud cover (via cosmic-ray flux as "catalyst") providing an "iris" effect directly changing the surface warmth, hugely more important than trace-level CO2 which supposedly results in a slight mid-level troposphere warming (NOT surface warming).

14 posted on 12/18/2009 7:51:07 PM PST by muffaletaman
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