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To: rabscuttle385; Chunga
Okay, reading your post to chunga, you must have some kind of answer if you think the Republican party is a lost cause. So what is your answer, what should we do in your opinion, if not try to work to retake the R party?

A corrolary, do you think supporting a third party will do anything but elect demcrats?

611 posted on 12/18/2009 1:52:30 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark; Chunga; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
if not try to work to retake the R party?

Working to retake the Republican Party is only worthwhile if you have another Calvin Coolidge and like-minded libertarian conservatives who are willing to cut the Federal government.

Palin is no Coolidge, unfortunately.

Her statement--on the record--, when combined with her PAC's support of Graham, McCain, and Murkowski, is sufficient grounds to support such an assertion.

She has allied herself with the present Republican establishment, which *IS* the problem.

So what is your answer, what should we do in your opinion

Determine what our "certain fundamental beliefs"--our core principles--are, and publicly declare them to be true and worthy of our support.

These should be beliefs which, to paraphrase Reagan, "must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell [a party's, or a faction's] numbers."

It is important to note that obtaining agreement on a number of principles is increasingly harder to do as the number of principles increase; so, at the Federal level, I would suggest that there only be two or three "fundamental beliefs," namely adherence to the Declaration and to the Constitution, adherence to the rule of law, and a willingness and an eagerness to reduce the Federal government to a minimal size, thereby restoring the rights and the freedoms of the States and the People.

When I find Republican candidates who support such things, I will support them; otherwise, I will feel free to look outside the Republican Party for candidates who support such things.

620 posted on 12/18/2009 2:08:49 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Lakeshark; Chunga
A corrolary, do you think supporting a third party will do anything but elect demcrats?

The point is to elect libertarian conservatives.

Not merely to elect Republicans.

621 posted on 12/18/2009 2:10:15 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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