I think we are all in agreement that manmade gases, which account for about 0.28% of the greenhouse effect has no effect on the climate. (Some would even argue how much the greenhouse effect matters.)
I too used to think that “Yes - it looks like it might be getting warmer for now.” But, also saying - look at the 22 year solar cycle to bring about some cooling. (Even more now that this low cycle has lasted so long.) AND - the previous interglacial warm periods have been about 11,000 to 14,000 years in length. We are at about 11,000 years for our current warm period. So it would not surprise me if we started heading to another ice age.
The Climate Swindle document looks to be from 2007, so perhaps filmed in 2006 even? The recent data does show more of a cooling trend, so perhaps Mockton is taking into account 3 more years of data, and revised his thoughts a bit (as I have).
Or, perhaps he has revised his thoughts based on the recent emails and crooked data that he (an I) have been looking at to make our pronouncements.
Just some thoughts on the various comments that he (and I) have made in the past.
Yeah, I would agree with you on the effect of the mankind on the climate, as you explain it. :-)
And in terms of it getting warmer, as you said, it was before but now it’s not. And I would agree with that, too. That’s why I post the information on the Dalton Minimum and what impact the similar circumstances will have now, as we’ve entered the same kind of solar minimum as the Dalton Minimum, now. That’s just been in the last couple of years.
I’ve made the kinds of distinctions that I have, in these posts, to hopefully get FReepers less concerned and/or worried about those who give the historical data for Global Warming that we’ve had. I’m saying that this is no big deal, as Global Warming and Global Cooling happens all the time, without any input from mankind... :-)
So, I’m just saying don’t get upset about someone saying that there has been Global Warming — because there has been... LOL...
The “big deal” to hammer away on, is “Anthropogenic Global Warming”. I would keep the other side “on this issue” and not on whether there has been Global Warming or Global Cooling... :-)