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To: Fred Nerks
I do not see this as a 'birth certificate' but as an application. From which a certification of live birth was FILED.

No that is the form. The way it is usually done is that the mother or someone else, supplies the information, it's typed up at the hospital on this form, which is then signed by the appropriate people in the appropriate places. For a birth not in a hospital, in 1961, it might have been filled in by hand, and their would likely not be a "local registrar" signature, (block 21), which is usually a hospital official. The "witness" could be a relative or friend of the parent(s), rather than a doctor or midwife.

96 posted on 12/12/2009 10:37:36 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

http://www.scribd.com/doc/24001567/Obama-BC-GMom

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Obama Birth Certificate Submitted by GMom

In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s. Even if they had been, there is and was no requirement for a physician or midwife to witness, state or report that the baby was born in Hawaii.
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Date Added 12/11/2009


101 posted on 12/12/2009 11:11:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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