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To: Old Landmarks

You really mean:
“endowed by our Creator to deny certain unalienable rights to those with which we disagree”


2,534 posted on 12/15/2009 8:56:25 AM PST by lumber1 (It is not what you do now, but what they will do later with what you've "done now" that matters.)
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To: lumber1
No, you have it exactly backwards.

What I really mean is to quote our nation's founding principle that explains where our rights are from.

"endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights..."

This means our rights come from our Creator, not from the state.

If someone wants to disagree, they may, they just should not be able to use their god "Big Government" to force the 'Creatorless' view onto other people's children by using leftists who run the Big Government Public School monopoly.

2,535 posted on 12/15/2009 9:08:50 AM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: lumber1; Old Landmarks
You really mean:
“endowed by our Creator to deny certain unalienable rights to those with which we disagree”

Hey troll, can you please give an example of a SINGLE God-given right which is denied to ANYONE in America.

2,536 posted on 12/15/2009 9:08:57 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: lumber1

That is not what the founding Father wrote

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…..

The purpose of government, as expressed by our founders, was to protect our God-given rights. It is crucial to understand this premise found in the declaration, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. Our rights come from our Creator, not from government. If the government can give rights, then it follows that it can take rights. If God gave us the rights, then only God can take the rights. The purpose of government is to make sure your rights are protected. God is the restrainer of tyrannical government. Acknowledging God keeps our leaders honest. The belief that there is an ultimate authority to which they are personally accountable keeps the power-hungry in check. But if God is no longer over government, to whom are our leaders accountable? America is teetering on the edge of tyranny.

What happens if God is removed from the picture? What happens if America and American law becomes secularized? What happens when they tell us that there is separation of church and state and we must keep our Faith to ourselves? What happens when “One nation under God” no longer acknowledges God? If God is not acknowledged, and government becomes the granter of rights, then who keeps an eye on “government”? If God is the granter of rights, then government must answer to God. If there is no God, then the government is god, and government determines what rights we have.” http://www.covenantnews.com/daubenmire060727.htm

Therefore even if you don’t believe your rights are protect all mankind rights are protect under this document.

To remove God would put all mankind rights in jeopardy stability would turn to uncertainty for we would be subject and rule by the “whims of men” and not all men are just men!


2,572 posted on 12/15/2009 10:51:33 AM PST by restornu (Atonement; Christ doesnt just make up the difference. He makes all the difference. ~ Brad Wilcox)
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To: lumber1

retread zot


2,585 posted on 12/15/2009 11:14:03 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! God save this great Republic!!)
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