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To: metmom
I think linking ID with Creationism is a bad idea. I think using the ID/Crevo/Evo issues as a wedge between otherwise like minded conservatives is a STUPID thing, yes. (Dave Lettermans "Stupid Pet Tricks" is the idea for the name.) As I have said before, ID can mean ANYTHING, not just Genesis. I dont think its a good idea for Conservatives to get into that argument, and I stand by that.

I still have not seen any threads started to trash Creationists. I was not involved in anything about "Darwin Central", I don't even know what that is about really, but I have posted my opinion that "Evo's" should distance themselves from Athiests, again, not the same thing necessarily.

1,829 posted on 12/13/2009 8:11:47 PM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Paradox; metmom
"... I have posted my opinion that "Evo's" should distance themselves from Athiests, again, not the same thing necessarily."

That's probably good advice, but it isn't possible.

When one circles the wagons to exclude all those of benighted opinion, the "evos" and atheists aren't in the same "inner circle"; they're in the same outer circle.

1,839 posted on 12/13/2009 8:57:39 PM PST by NicknamedBob (It seems to me that a wise PALINa woman would, more often than not, reach a better conclusion.)
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To: Paradox
" I think using the ID/Crevo/Evo issues as a wedge between otherwise like minded conservatives is a STUPID thing,

Don't expect an honest exploration of differing perspectives or the inclusion of Theistic Evolution and Intelligent Design in with the really, truely, honest-to-God Consdervative Christians by the Young Earth Creationists. They have an us-versus-them approach to samvation and behave like there are only a limited number of seats in Heaven reserved only for those who believe exactly the way they do. Disagree and you will be bullied, insulted and threatened while they stand on the abuse button.

There is a reason they continue to hijack News/Activism threads instead of conducting these discussions in the Religion Forum. The Religion Forum requires a higher level of civility and decorum.

1,842 posted on 12/13/2009 9:06:45 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Paradox

FWIW, you do know that I copied and pasted that comment I was responding to and just added the *ouch* comment, don’t you?

I know evos are not necessarily the same as atheists. Not all evolutionists are atheists, but atheists are, by default, evolutionists. Since they don’t believe in a deity, there is not much opportunity for creation without evolution.

The worst of the evolutionists in behavior towards the creationists have tended to be from the atheistic ones. There have been exceptions, but as a rule, they have a bone to pick about God or with God, and tend to be the most vociferous in their attacks against creationism and Christians with the ridicule and derision.


1,855 posted on 12/13/2009 9:34:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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