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To: Tublecane
It'd already been determined that the Chinese and Europeans had a common origin (as recently as 35,000 years ago).

The "earlier" thesis that was put to rest quite some time ago was that India, SE Asia, New Guinea and Australia had been settled by a group that didn't go anywhere else.

Obviously that story was in error if they show up in Northern and Eastern Asia.

The accepted view has been that humans known as the San came up from South Africa to the African/Asian litoral and migrated on around to India, and from there to Sundaland, to Australia, et al, some 75,000 years ago. Some of them moved North to Central Asia North of the Himalayan Ice Cap during a lengthy interstadial about 50,000 years ago.

An interstadial is a warm period of less than 10,000 years that occurs during a period of major glaciation. An interstadial can affect the entire globe, or a major portion.

The Western branch of the Euro/Chinese group began dividing into the Sa'ami and the non-Sa'ami parts about 15,000 years ago just as The Big Ice was melting away. The Eastern branch of the Chinese/Euro group began dividing into two groups at about the same time. The smaller of the two groups have molars with 5 roots (other humans have 4 roots). This makes it possible to differentiate between the two groups in archaeological digs.

Today we usually think of major differences between populations in terms of color, culture and language. At the same time thanks to DNA analysis we can dispense with the element of "color" and discuss them in terms of DNA markers. 5 roots on your teeth is a pretty good one, but there are others which taken in combination can reveal primary ancestral backgrounds of the four groups who were originally a single group that left the shores of the Arabian gulf and moved North to Central Asia.

6 posted on 12/11/2009 5:02:32 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: muawiyah; cold start; SunkenCiv; blam; All

Just started reading my latest issue of Archaeology magazine. “Stone Age India: Does evidence buried by a super-volcano redraw the map of human migration?” The volcano referred to is Toba, 74,000 kya. Apparently the culture dated to 77,000 kya under the ashes is similar to the culture dated 74,000 kya above the ashes. I have not yet read the whole article, but I think that might be evidence for the idea that some moved north to Central Asia, and eastward. Since the world population was pretty much decimated after Toba, it probably would have taken a while for population densities to have built up enough to support significant migration and deposition of remains.

Sunken Civ: You might want to make a separate post of this article for all our Catastrophism enthusiasts:
http://www.archaeology.org/1001/abstracts/stone_age_india.html

Interesting about the 5 root molars. My oldest son had to have all of his SIX wisdom teeth removed. Someone at the dental school said this is true of some Esquimos. Does anyone here have any information on this anomoly.


30 posted on 12/11/2009 10:04:58 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: muawiyah

I would figure that Chinese and Europeans had a common origin. I know Koreans are likely mixed with Chinese people because of constant contact with them. I tend to think Koreans are mixed and are about as mixed as any other ethnic groups. To understand Asian history, whether it is Korean, Japanese, and Chinese, you need to know Chinese history.


43 posted on 12/14/2009 11:31:10 AM PST by Ptarmigan (Death Penalty For Bunny Rabbits!)
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