Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Copenhagen climate summit: scientists rally against climate change sceptics
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Dec.8, 2009 | Geoffrey Lean

Posted on 12/08/2009 4:29:48 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

It’s official. Global warming is continuing, despite attempts by sceptics to show otherwise. That was the message from the world’s leading climate scientists on the second day of the climate summit in Copenhagen.

One after the other, the British Met Office and the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) went public with their latest measurements, showing that 2009 is shaping up to be the fifth hottest year on record and – more importantly – that the 'noughties’ are set to be much the warmest decade ever.

But just a few miles away from the cavernous Bella Centre, climate sceptics were saying exactly the opposite at an alternative conference. They claim, as a central part of their case, that the world has been getting cooler since 1998. But the scientists will have none of it. “We are in a warming trend. There is no doubt about it,” insisted Michael Jarraud, the Secretary General of the WMO.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS:

1 posted on 12/08/2009 4:29:52 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s not like we were expecting anything different. ;-)


2 posted on 12/08/2009 4:31:29 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

Follow the money. Nothing new here.


3 posted on 12/08/2009 4:32:36 PM PST by cranked
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic

FReepmail me to get on or off


Climategate rundown (extensive)
Ping me if you find one I've missed.


4 posted on 12/08/2009 4:33:06 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY; livius; DollyCali; FrPR; TenthAmendmentChampion; Horusra; Delacon; Thunder90; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

5 posted on 12/08/2009 4:33:20 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

“Polar Bears love it!”


6 posted on 12/08/2009 4:36:00 PM PST by pharmamom (Queen. Visit the Queendom: www.whenwearequeen.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

Green Fool-Aid.

Excellent graphic.


7 posted on 12/08/2009 4:39:20 PM PST by samtheman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

Of course, that place is one huge echo chamber.


8 posted on 12/08/2009 4:40:30 PM PST by ully2 (ully)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: doc1019
It’s not like we were expecting anything different. ;-)

Actually their statement that, '2009 is the 5th warmest year on record...' does surprise me.
I know these guys think they own all the world's thermometers - but I believe 2009 had one of the coolest summers 'of memory', and winter isn't exactly shaping up to be all that warm either...
Sounds like an awfully odd claim on their part... But I guess if you are speaking in an echo chamber, and the objective is to 'top' the previous speaker with an even more outlandish lie ... I suppose anything goes.

9 posted on 12/08/2009 4:44:01 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

So all those articles I read about 2009 being the coolest summer on record was lies? I’m starting to think there is no hope, they lie so badly and could care less who knows. I feel helpless.


10 posted on 12/08/2009 4:51:52 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY

Cain’t beleev them psi-ent-ists. Sum kinna cult.


11 posted on 12/08/2009 4:52:24 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Cid

I have it, they are claiming it is the warmest year worldwide, while the US has the coolest summer on record.

Still can’t believe a dang thing they say, but I have finally accepted that liberalism IS a mental disorder.

Had an ex-coworker comment on how fabulous Obama was while posting a sychophantic article about his Afghanistan speech. I disagreed and he said that “unemployment was topping out and the stimulus is working!” I replied that I hardly called a .2% decline DURING CHRISTMAS SEASON a ‘topping out’ and I had no proof the stimulus was working. He hasn’t replied back.


12 posted on 12/08/2009 5:01:17 PM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Free ThinkerNY
ummmm.....they are talking about Earth temperatures, right?

Just checkin' because it was pretty darn cold all summer where I come from.

13 posted on 12/08/2009 5:03:08 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (What do the _hite House and I have in common? We're both missing W....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: El Cid
What is going on is quite simple ~ we've had satellites capable of measuring surface, intermediate and high altitude temperatures for about 9 or 10 years with official temperature reports for half that time.

When they were first launched the AWG crowd demanded that they be re-calibrated so they "matched" the temperatures then being reported by the ground stations.

The ground stations were, of course, exceedingly incorrect since they hadn't been properly maintained.

The re-calibrated satellite readings start at an incorrectly high temperature.

The AWG crowd are aghast that the temperatures reported by the satellites are DECLINING.

So, the fifth warmest year is actually about the fifth coldest ever reported by the satellite system.

14 posted on 12/08/2009 5:15:31 PM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine
I have it, they are claiming it is the warmest year worldwide, while the US has the coolest summer on record...

I thought that might be the case ... but the US cuts through a pretty large chunk of the Northern Latitudes, and I didn't hear any stories this summer of Parisian Grandmas and Grandpas dropping like flies as they were abandoned by their Ne'er do well wine sipping offspring - who went off to 'holiday' on the beaches as the old folks croaked in their sweltering apartments...So I assume Europe didn't set any heat records. I didn't hear anything unusual out of Russia and China either - but I don't follow them too closely so I can't vouch that they didn't have unusual hot spells...But I doubt it...

I suppose 'its possible' ... but given the propensity for these guys to lie - I'm thinking that this is just more flim-flam...

15 posted on 12/08/2009 5:15:57 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: El Cid

The spring was pretty darn cold also.


16 posted on 12/08/2009 5:18:04 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
Thanks - your explanation on post #14 makes sense and is probably the answer.

Its all a sham and game for these people. Fleece the people by whatever means or scam they can come up with.

17 posted on 12/08/2009 5:19:11 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine
I’m starting to think there is no hope, they lie so badly and could care less who knows. I feel helpless.

Don't give up just yet.

The American Physical Society is being urged to consider putting a hold on its statement concerning global warming due to "corrupted" science.

Dissenting members ask APS to put their policy statement on ice due to Climategate

18 posted on 12/08/2009 5:25:06 PM PST by MamaTexan (Government has become a criminal enterprise!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: autumnraine
"I have it, they are claiming it is the warmest year worldwide, while the US has the coolest summer on record."

Yeah, that's the new "meme". It turns out that from the "climate models", the only parts of the planet that are suffering from cooling are North America and Europe. Coincidentally, those just happen to be the two places which have the best and most monitoring equipment, and in which the raw data are most likely to be available to the public (and "rogue scientists") who might question its validity. Strangely enough, the only places suffering large warming trends are remote areas where monitoring (and fact-checking) possibilities are scarce.

My diagnosis---more "cooking the books".

19 posted on 12/08/2009 5:42:33 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson