You are TigersEyes make a good fit. You both substitute rants and raving sentences for conversation and both believe that you’re 100% right, though you can’t discuss anything or make a case for your beliefs, and that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron. Most very mentally challenged people do, so no offense taken, but you may want to retract on the “bleeding heart moron” statement, as you’d be even harder pressed than you are now in making the case that someone who is for capital punishment for murderers, terrorists and child rapists is a bleeding heart liberal. In fact, if sane people are reading this, I’m sure they’re astonished that people as clueless as you can actually type.
I know, I could have worded the above truths nicer. But after going at this ad nauseam, pointing out how appropriate sentencing and even sometimes clemency, etc. is needed to prevent crime and getting nothing but raving lunacy in return, my patience is limited.
Question for you: Since you believe in harsh sentences across the board and see callousness as a virtue, would you support long sentences for speeding drivers, jay walkers, etc.? Just wondering where or if you draw the line at the mantra you’ve now chanted 5 times about “can’t do the time.”
If you disagree with the law - change the law.
You are arguing (ad nauseum) that the law should not be applied as written, because the legal sentences handed out are "too harsh".
If you want that kind of power, then run for office. But don't bother talking down your nose at those who see things differently than you do.
And don't expect conservatives to rally behind Huckabee.
post #30....Well, if you’d stop faulting him for not having hindsight vision and look at the actual effects of long sentences, you’d see that it’s the system you advocate for that led to child rape and murder and everything else you list, not his parole.
I could go on but really can't see wasting my time on you. I think you are very mentally challenged. You want to give people hard labor & think that is going to make them better people when they get out....That is a good one. Yes I can type & I can read & I can see that you are part of the problem why criminals get out of jail too early & go on to rape & kill. In answer to your question about speeders & jay walkers. Don't speed, don't jay walk. If you do pay your fines. And I gave you a perfect example of judges letting people out of jail too early or even letting them out when I posted about Duncan & Shasta Groene. I guess jail made him into a monster also. No mention about that case hmmm? Does it cross your pea brain that some people are just born evil or chose to be evil? And no amount of jail time or trying to rehabilitate them is going to change that. Chew on that.
That is an outright lie and you know it.
You should read the following article before you buy that story.
Huckabee is lying about cop killer's age and criminal record in Arkansas
Talk about misleading. I said nothing about him being executed nor did the article that I linked to.
I don't think you even read it. It outlines numerous violent incidents he was involved in in his eight felony convictions and his outbursts in court.
Baloney. You are pushing the same misleading BS that Huckabee is.
* Sentenced to 5 years for robbery in Pulaski County, Aug. 3, 1989.
* Sentenced to 8 years for burglary, theft and probation revocation in Pulaski County, Sept. 9, 1989
* Sentenced to an indeterminate amount for aggravated robbery and theft in Pulaski County, Nov. 15, 1989
* Sentenced to 20 years each for burglary and theft of property in Pulaski County, Feb. 23, 1990.
* Sentenced to 6 years for firearm possession in Pulaski County, Nov. 19, 1990.The record shows Clemmons went on a crime spree in 1988-89. In November 1988, Clemmons punched a 7th grader in the face and stole his necklace. That resulted in the initial 5-year sentence.
Clemmons turned 17 years old in February 1989. In April of that year, he broke into an Arkansas state trooper's home and stole $6,700 worth of items, including a gun. A couple of weeks later, Clemmons was arrested for bringing a gun on school property.
Less than two weeks later after the gun incident, Maurice Clemmons and an accomplice were arrested for two separate robberies on the same night. They robbed a woman in front of an Arkansas bar. Clemmons claimed he had a gun. The woman said, "Well, why don't you just shoot?". Clemmons punched her in the head and snatched her purse.
35 minutes later, Clemmons and his friend hit a man in the head and stole his $500 gold chain in front of a convenience store. They were also questioned about two other similar robberies and one attempted robbery that occurred the same night.
There were also three separate courtroom incidents in 1990 where Clemmons tried to use a weapon against a judge, threw a padlock at a bailiff, and tried to take a guard's pistol. A judge ordered Clemmons be placed in leg shackles because he felt Clemmons has threatened him. Clemmons also displayed very erratic behavior during the trial, mumbling loudly throughout the proceedings. He also made an obscene gesture toward a state trooper testifying against him. There is a definite pattern of showing a complete lack of respect, and a lot of hostility, toward authority figures.
Clemmons would not have been eligible for parole until 2015. Mike Huckabee's commutation in 2000 made him eligible immediately. Clemmons was granted parole just one month later. He was sentenced to 108 total years for 8 different felonies. Clemmons served only 11.
Then you can't read or you're a liar. For starters he was 17 when he committed his second offense of the five incidents that got him eight felony convictions. So the BS about him being 16 when he committed his "crime" is just that.The account I just posted shows numerous incidents of violence. He punches a 7th grader, a woman, a guy on the street, makes a threat on the judge in court, throws a padlock at a bailiff and tries to take a guard's gun. So don't give me your crapola about "I see burglary, theft and firearm possession before..."
Grow up and stop lying to me.
He apparently wasn't opposed to the sentence 11 years earlier either. If Huckabee had passed him over he would have been up for parole in 2015. That would have been 26 years so throwing around the 108 year sentence is disingenuous.
Huckabee also threw the race card on Geraldo tonight to make excuses for himself and that really burns me. He did it in the same self-serving and dishonest way Sharpton does.
He would have done far better for himself if he had just offered his condolences to the families of the slain officers and his regret that a decision he had made many years ago had let this guy go. That and then refuse to discuss it further.
His behavior was clearly violent and disturbed from the start. You’re lying when you try to spin it differently.
We don't do labor camps in this country. Not much anyway. There used to be prison labor camps in places but I don't think there is any evidence that they reduced recidivism in violent offenders.
In addition our courts have mostly ruled that kind of treatment out. All anybody would have to do is come up with some "condition" preventing them from doing any labor and that would be it. They would just skate through their short sentence.
Besides, you're putting responsibility for someone's actions on the authorities who enforce the laws. That is liberal horse shit thinking.
That is clearly not ranting and I put forth plenty of information to discuss. So far you haven't discussed anything with me, with pandoraou812 or with anyone else on this thread. Your view has been "my way or the highway" from the start. Please don't try to run for office again. We have enough politicians who refuse to listen to anyone else. We have enough liars too.
You are drawing an analogy between speeding and jay walking vs. aggravated assault and battery. That is insane.