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To: allmendream
"No difference as a coordinate system."

Again:

“The relation of the two pictures [geocentricity and heliocentricity] is reduced to a mere coordinate transformation and it is the main tenet of the Einstein theory that any two ways of looking at the world which are related to each other by a coordinate transformation are entirely equivalent from a physical point of view...."

Hoyle, Fred. Nicolaus Copernicus. London: Heinemann Educational Books Ltd., 1973.

"So far the only backing for your ‘gravity imbalance’ model is your own blather, unbacked by anything that would make your ‘gravity imbalance’ model “according to Einstein”."

Again:

"“For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” Ellis has published a paper on this. “You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds."

Ellis, George, in Scientific American, "Thinking Globally, Acting Universally", October 1995

"When you say that impossible and idiotic system is “according to Einstein” you lie."

Again, trying to label opposing models with emotionally-charged terms and accusations is a fool's errand.

"But please, by all means, keep arguing that they are equivalent as coordinate systems, which I do not dispute, and regurgitate the same old tired quotes that you don't understand."

Again:

"The relation of the two pictures [geocentricity and heliocentricity] is reduced to a mere coordinate transformation and it is the main tenet of the Einstein theory that any two ways of looking at the world which are related to each other by a coordinate transformation are entirely equivalent from a physical point of view...."

Hoyle, Fred. Nicolaus Copernicus. London: Heinemann Educational Books Ltd., 1973.

"Once you decide to reject science in favor of your own biblical interpretation you may as well be a Geocentrist."

Again:

"For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” Ellis has published a paper on this. “You can only exclude it on philosophical grounds."

Ellis, George, in Scientific American, "Thinking Globally, Acting Universally", October 1995

"You are the living embodiment of the reducto ad absurdum of the creationist argument."

Again, trying to label opposing models with emotionally-charged terms and accusations is a fool's errand.

356 posted on 12/22/2009 8:15:50 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
Still no support, just your old regurgitated quotes that you do not understand. Your ‘gravity imbalance’ model that would have the Sun orbit the Earth is STILL not “according to Einstein”, Einstein wasn't a moron - and you would have to be to think that such was a credible model.

The gravitational force necessary to make the Sun orbit the Earth would move the Earth like a leaf in a storm, not leave it magically and mysteriously motionless.

But trying to talk reason, or get a straight answer, out of a Geocentrist truly IS a fool's errand.

But thanks for playing along, I really enjoy showing what ludicrous foolishness creationism is.

357 posted on 12/23/2009 7:13:58 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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