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To: allmendream
"If the center of gravity, due to your “imbalance” by factoring in the “rest of the universe” is causing the Sun to go around the Earth; then it is the GRAVITY of the “rest of the universe” causing the Sun to move around the Earth."

Ok, then I guess you won't be claiming that some fictitious force must magically be involved anymore, eh?

"Of course the Sun does NOT move around the Earth; the Gravity between the Earth and the Sun causes an orbital acceleration upon the Earth. Basic physics."

Actually, under GR as explained by Hoyle; geocentrism and geokineticism are "entirely equivalent from a physical point of view". Of course, when you invoke 'basic physics' as an argument you fall back into the trap of focusing on the earth-sun CG and ignoring the rest of the universe again, as I have warned you about innumerable times now. The 'basic physics' works just fine for geocentrism under GR as explained by Einstein, Born, Hoyle and Ellis. No 'special physics' is involved, only differing philosophical positions.

As Ellis says, "For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations."

You cannot say scientifically that the earth is not at the center of the universe, i.e., geocentrism. You cannot say scientifically that the earth orbits the sun as the solar-system orbits the galactic center or whatever claim you want to make. The 'basic physics' are the same. The earth appears to be at rest in the universe. You can only make that statement as a statement of philosophical preference by ignoring the effect of the rest of the universe and focusing on the earth-sun CG. The statements from Einstein, Born, Hoyle and Ellis are telling you that you can only do that as a philosophical choice, not a scientific observation. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand.

But I notice that, once again, you have stopped trying to defend your putative chromosome fusion claim and the absurd statement that "All things in science are “putative”" and your further absurd statement that "the DNA shows the same genes lining up". Did 'Alec's Evolution Pages' article written by Alec himself not work out for you as a 'scientific source'?

334 posted on 12/12/2009 12:21:09 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan
So now once again you ARE saying that it is the gravity of the “rest of the universe” causing the Sun to move around the Earth.

That is impossible. The gravity to cause the Sun to move around the Earth in such a way would sweep up the Earth like a leaf in a storm. Absolutely impossible.

Now are you going to deny that you said that the gravity from the “rest of the universe” is causing the Sun to move around the Earth again? Come on... You know you want to!

What a infantile and ridiculous argument. ‘I didn't say it! OK I did say it. You just don't understand!’

How laughably inept.

335 posted on 12/12/2009 1:38:19 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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