[allmendream]

What you do not understand is that Ellis’s statements about coordinate systems in no way contradicts the simple fact that.....

GRAVITY MOVES THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN.

Models to explain the motion do not explain what is the CAUSE of the motion.

In your model, what is CAUSING the motion?

No answer? More garbage you don't even understand about coordinate systems... OK. Rinse and repeat.

[sodpoodle]

Just rec’d. this text message:

*Now wasn’t that fun?

Merry Christmas FReepers.

God*

[GourmetDan]

"What you do not understand is that Ellis’s statements about coordinate systems in no way contradicts the simple fact that..... GRAVITY MOVES THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN."

What you don't understand about Ellis' statements is that you cannot say that scientifically. You are making a philosophical statement.

" Models to explain the motion do not explain what is the CAUSE of the motion. In your model, what is CAUSING the motion? No answer? More garbage you don't even understand about coordinate systems... OK. Rinse and repeat."

Here's a second post where I explained this to you as far back as 2008.

Heliocentrism always ignores the rest of the universe while geocentrism always includes it. Your example above shows how the rest of the universe is ignored by focusing on the sun/earth CG.

Consider that the solar system is a mere point when compared to the universe. Then consider that it does not take much gravitational imbalance in the universe to move the CG from somewhere inside the sun (for heliocentrism) to inside the earth (for geocentrism).

This is what Ernst Mach understood under classical physics and what Einstein, Hoyle, Born and Ellis understood under GR.