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To: allmendream
"Where are YOUR references that they do not? You chimed in saying things 180 degrees off kilter to what geneticists have said for years and that they have confirmed by data; and it is I who need to provide references?"

Well, if geneticists have said it for years and it has been confirmed by data, it should not be a problem for you to provide a peer-reviewed reference.

"Here is a reference..."

That reference merely repeats the faulty generalization error you committed earlier.

I should have been more precise in asking for a peer-reviewed reference. Not only for the supposed fusion but also for the genes supposedly lining up.

Surely you can do better than that if geneticists have said it for years and it has been confirmed by data.

"Geocentric idiocy duly noted."

What part of "People need to be aware that there is a range of models that could explain the observations,” Ellis argues. “For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.” do you not understand?

277 posted on 12/04/2009 7:53:41 AM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GourmetDan; allmendream
Ellis argues. “For instance, I can construct you a spherically symmetrical universe with Earth at its center, and you cannot disprove it based on observations.”

Exactly the way crevos pi$$ on your leg and tell you it's raining.

Ellis did not have the data showing that the universe is far from symetrical, nor the proof from gravity lensing that far more universe exists out there [in some directions, and not others] than we can observe without 'special tricks' provided by nature itself.

280 posted on 12/04/2009 8:02:56 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: GourmetDan
What part of GRAVITY moving the Earth around the Sun are you having problems understanding?

My source HAD peer review references. Here they are in as you were obviously not smart enough to figure it out.

1. http://www.fhcrc.org/labs/trask/subtelomeres/

2. Yunis, J. J., Sawyer, J.R., Dunham, K., The striking resemblance of high-resolution g-banded chromosomes of man and chimpanzee. Science, Vol. 208, 6 June 1980, pp. 1145 - 1148

3. IJdo JW, Baldini A, Ward DC, Reeders ST, Wells RA, Origin of human chromosome 2: an ancestral telomere-telomere fusion. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A 1991 Oct 15;88(20):9051-5; available on-line here:

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/reprint/88/20/9051.pdf

4. Avarello R, Pedicini A, Caiulo A, Zuffardi O, Fraccaro M, Evidence for an ancestral alphoid domain on the long arm of human chromosome 2. Hum Genet 1992 May;89(2):247-9

282 posted on 12/04/2009 8:27:04 AM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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