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Lawmakers Probe Climate Emails
Wall Street Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 24, 2009 | KEITH JOHNSON and GAUTAM NAIK

Posted on 11/30/2009 2:57:33 AM PST by SpaceBar

Congressional Republicans have started investigating climate scientists whose hacked emails suggest they tried to squelch dissenting views about global warming.

An aide to Rep. Darrell Issa (R., Calif.), the ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said investigators are studying the documents, which unknown hackers stole last week from the computer of a prominent British climate-research center.

Investigators are focusing on the correspondence of White House Science Adviser John Holdren, he said. Dr. Holdren, a point man for the Obama administration on climate change, sent one of the hacked emails. In the 2003 email, Dr. Holdren, then at the Woods Hole Research Center in Woods Hole, Mass., defended research by Michael Mann of Pennsylvania State University, a scientist who believes global warming is man-made and who also sent some of the hacked emails.

On Monday, Dr. Holden said: "I'm happy to stand by my contribution to this exchange. I think anybody who reads what I wrote in its entirety will find it a serious and balanced treatment of the question of 'burden of proof' in situations where science germane to public policy is in dispute."

The aide said investigators are also probing the contributions of dozens of climate scientists to reports published by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. The Environmental Protection Agency, in its recent move to boost regulation of greenhouse gases, based its conclusions on IPCC reports. (more at link...)

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; darrellissa; johnholdren

1 posted on 11/30/2009 2:57:34 AM PST by SpaceBar
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 11/30/2009 3:02:37 AM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: SpaceBar
Dr. Holden said: "I'm happy to stand by my contribution to this exchange. I think anybody who reads what I wrote in its entirety will find it a serious and balanced treatment of the question of 'burden of proof' in situations where science germane to public policy is in dispute."

Extaordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Certainly, the "evidence" for AGW is "extraordinary", much like the evidence for UFOs or Lysenkoism are extraordinary. The claim of AGW, however, is now considered ordinary, having been made so by repetition, rather than by the weight of evidence. Joseph Goebbels would understand.

3 posted on 11/30/2009 3:06:22 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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bump


4 posted on 11/30/2009 3:21:18 AM PST by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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FReepmail me to get on or off

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



5 posted on 11/30/2009 3:36:23 AM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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re: climate scientists whose hacked emails

Typical MSM treatment of the subject. There’s been no proof the emails were hacked rather than given up by a snitch.

Pitiful is the only word left to describe the state of journalism these days. Or maybe pathetic.


6 posted on 11/30/2009 3:52:45 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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Those journalistic “misnomers” are similar to how they keep describing the Honduras situation as a coup, and not what it really was, a thwarted coup attempt.


7 posted on 11/30/2009 4:02:54 AM PST by SpaceBar
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I hope they include these emails:

Nov 18 1998 Briffa says to evag and stepan “I am told that the money transfer ( 5000 u.s. dollars) should have gone to the bank account you stated. Please let me know if this is received by you. I am also sending Stepan’s 5000 dollars to Switzerland now to be carried back by his colleague.”

21 Dec 1998 An unusual direct email from Shiyatov to Briffa rather than through Tatiana Dedkova “Thank you for the money transfer via Fritz Schweingruber. I received 5000 USD. Is it necessary to give you a receipt for this sum of money?


8 posted on 11/30/2009 4:18:35 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi
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That one drives me absolutely crazy! Every reference to the situation there uses the term coup.

I fear it's just something we'll have to learn to live with until the MSM’s death watch is complete.

9 posted on 11/30/2009 4:29:40 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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science germane to public policy

not sure how to interpret that...shouldn't it be the other way around?

10 posted on 11/30/2009 4:58:01 AM PST by blueplum
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I don't think "stolen" is the correct word.

After all, they are still there where they've always been and are still in the same condition they were in before.

They didn't "steal" a peek at them as the FOIA puts them in public domain.

11 posted on 11/30/2009 5:49:22 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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oldie ,but a goodie:

Lehman Brothers Close Ties to Gore, Hansen and Carbon Trading

http://icecap.us/index.php/go/political-climate

Al Gore’s carbon trading business GIM was banked with Lehman Bros. It will be interesting to see how this will play in the future but I suspect that this increases the risk of participating in Carbon trading. Merrill Lynch, was also deeply involved in this business.

Last year Lehman Brothers released a long and highly publicized report about climate change in which they preached about decarbonization, trying to make their investors keep getting high profits from the Kyoto carbon trade scheme and the support of huge public subventions. All that, of course, with the applause of the usual choir of politicians, the entire media and the Greens.

A year ago they couldn’t predict their bankruptcy but were predicting the climate 100 years ahead. Thousands of green militants have been using the Lehman report as a proof of global warming and impending chaos. Lehman Bros said it! sacred words! Its scientific advisor is James Hansen! The report is the basis for policies on climate change in Spain, Argentina and several other countries playing the progress game; it is used by economy professors playing the climatologists; by newspapers editorials, and even by a State Secretary: Lehman Bros, said it!

Lehman Brothers spoke in his report about the climate in 2100 and its economic and financial projections, about climate change costs several decades away. They dared to recommend their investors what they considered a central value of the carbon ton in 50 years from now. Their sources and support references were taken from the IPCC AR4, AR3, and so on. Really impressive.

But even with their high ability to peek into the future, they couldn’t predict their demise one year ahead though there were many people that had been warning about this present crash for years. But Lehman Bros were recommending investments 30, 50, 100 years ahead. Some days, reality imitates fiction. Who was Lehman Bros’ ‘scientific’ adviser on climate? You guessed it, James Hansen, the same guy that wants to drive the world to bankruptcy as he did with Lehman’s Bros.

But the story has some connections with Hansen being the ‘scientific’ adviser to Al Gore, who’s the Chairman of the Board of the Alliance for Climate Protection. As seen in Alliance’s website, the managing Director is none less than: Theodore Roosevelt IV. Managing Director, Lehman Brothers, Chair of the Pew Center for Global Climate Change.

Theodore Roosevelt IV is Managing Director at Lehman Brothers and a member of the Firm’s senior client coverage group, which oversees the Firms client and customer relationships. Mr. Roosevelt is an active conservationist. He is Chair of the Pew Center for Global Climate Change, Vice Chair of the Wilderness Society, and a Trustee for the American Museum of Natural History, The World Resources Institute, the Institute for Environment and Natural Resources at the University of Wyoming, and a Trustee of Trout Unlimited.

The Lehman reports in two parts can be found on this site ‘Intellectual Capital’. In “The Business of Climate Change ll”, the following acknowledgement is made: “On the scientific side, we are grateful to Dr. James Hansen, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, who, at the end of a particularly informative dinner hosted by Ben Cotton of the Man Group, gave generously of his time to clear up a number of scientific questions that had been niggling us. Dr. Peter Collins and Richard Heap of the Royal Society provided valuable input and brought us up to date on the more controversial areas of scientific developments in the domain of global climate change.” H/T Eduardo Ferreyra originally posted to Climate Sceptics Internet discussion group.

Lehman’s failure provides a preview of our future if more companies bank their future on the speculative advice of these advocacy scientists, politicians and environmental groups, while ignoring short term realities.


12 posted on 11/30/2009 5:59:57 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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